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Old 03-14-2005, 09:51 AM
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Took "Big Red" to the track for first time in "05"

Back from the track with new results for 2005!!

The SC F150 XLT 4X4 5.4L 3V Triton, 3.55 TL rear did a great job for a purely stock truck with just the SCT tune. Numbers look like this: Ran at a track elevation of 535 ft above sealevel, high 30's temps, and 10 MPH headwind.

60 ft 2.237
330 6.531
1/8 10.180
MPH 67.12
1000 13.331
1/4 16.000
MPH 84.47

Ran a Dodge HEMI three passes. I beat him the first pass with this 16.00 to his 16.04, He beat me the second pass a 15.89 to my 16.04, and the third pass 15.97 to my 16.10.

BUT, the real kicker was he had after market duals, 3.73 gears, cold air intake, and not sure what else. With gears alone I believe I could have handled him every pass. The first time we pulled up side by side he put the window down and said he hadn't been beaten in it yet by a stock anything. Well, he got his on our first pass. But I do honestly know that it is about 1/10th quicker at this point. But it should be.

Lets see what I can do with her after a few mods later in the year. Here HEMI, HEMI!!

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Old 03-15-2005, 10:39 AM
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whats your reaction times?..if you can chop the tree down every pass..you could have 3 tenths in your pocket without spending a dime!..in bracket racing you dont out doller'em you out DRIVE'em ...zap!
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Old 03-15-2005, 12:22 PM
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nice times
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:31 PM
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Wow, those are quick times. I was of the understanding that these trucks were high 16-low-17 sec performers. At least according to most magazine times...

(since the truck is stock) What exactly did the Xcalibrator do? Improve shift points? Adjust timing? How much does it cost?
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Old 03-20-2005, 01:02 PM
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ZAPSTER,

Reaction times have nothing to do with the bottom line as far as what the truck/any vehicle runs E.T wise. It only has to do with the bracket/heads up racing and how much head start you let the other vehicle get. The timer starts when you break the beam at the starting line with your front tires and when you break the beam at the other end only.

The modded Hemi Dodge was only 1/10 or less, quicker with all the mods he had. He also was running a 4X4 SC shorbed. I still believe the 150 outweighs it as well at least according to what I've read.

245/45-ZR17-

I had the computer flashed by SCT and nothing else. Its also a modest tune set for 87 Octane fuel. It does increase timing slightly, firm the shift points and reset them. I'm still running stock airbox, stock TL 3.55's, stock exhaust and everything. I hope later in the year to do the Airraid Intake, Pulleys, exhaust and possibly gears.

I believe with just gears, I would have whipped his ass every time.

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Old 03-20-2005, 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Lindas150
ZAPSTER,

Reaction times have nothing to do with the bottom line as far as what the truck/any vehicle runs E.T wise. It only has to do with the bracket/heads up racing and how much head start you let the other vehicle get. The timer starts when you break the beam at the starting line with your front tires and when you break the beam at the other end only.
This is true in regards to your time between the beams, but if the slower driver has a time of 16.00 and your time is 15.00, then he gets a 1 second lead and you still have to beat him down, unless he runs under 16.00. Time starts when the green light goes. If the race functions the way you describe it, you could have a reaction time of 10 minutes, then go and still beat the other driver because your elapsed time between actually moving and crossing the beam at the quarter was faster. You may be faster between the lines while moving but you still lose because the other drive beat you to the end. Reaction time matters regardless of why type of drag racing you're doing.
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Old 03-21-2005, 12:52 PM
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Not true

No, time starts when your vehicle breaks the beams as far as E.T. is concerned. E.T. shows which vehicle is quicker and by how much. As far as racing is concerned it is when the light goes green. Thats why bracket racing is so competitive. It depends on reaction time and the Vehicle E.T. dial in. I'm not concerned right now with my reactions as opposed to his, I'm interested in the performance of my E.T. as opposed to his E.T. with the modded HEMI!


These runs were test and tune runs, heads up. He can still get there ahead of me by having a better reaction time but again, it has nothing to do with E.T. ET no matter how you look at it is how quick the vehicle gets from point A - Point B. Yeah racing him I could have a better light and beat him to the other end but still run a slower E.T. Racing depends on how long he or I sits there on the light and the dial in (E.T) of the vehicle. Thats why you dial in.

FACT is his best E.T.'s to my best was only around a 1/10th difference or less on any of the runs. Thats line to line, not counting reaction times.

There is a slip to post to show you what I mean if I can get it posted. It shows the E.T. of both, mine in the right, his in the left. My e.t. was quicker cause the truck ran quicker but he won and got there first cause his light was much better. He got there first on reaction time but I got there faster due to quicker E.T.

Hopefully I can post this!!!

I can't get it to post but if you e-mail me I'll send it to you via e-mail.

Contact me at Mtncatracing@wmconnect.com
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Old 03-24-2005, 10:16 PM
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ok guys and gals cool it...r/t will win races...from bracket races to dial in super stock...its all the same thing but diffrent..but in heads up "run what you brung and hope you brung enough" racing such as what your basically doing now right? is your concern and only going for time slips is important then you need help...it's you vs. him right? challenge the brand x driver to a "grudge" match or two..weld him to the tree and grin all the way! ...but dont break out!...zap!
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Old 03-25-2005, 09:49 AM
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Yep, You're right ZAPTSTER

At least as far as the racing is concerned!

I've been drag racing since 1978 and Semi-Professionally since 1996. The reaction time in everything is important when you are running against competition.

When you are running comparison Truck to truck, car to car etc, then its E.T. that is important not the reaction times.

But I'd agree, nothing like burning the tree down on someone, getting the hole shot and handing them there ass, even if you are slower LOL!!! Should have seen the look on some of those stangs faces when I lit the Pro tree on .400 at a 415 at the WFC in St. Louis a couple years ago in the "Big Cat". There jaws dropped!!! Maybe after I get a few on it and know how it comes out, I'll try him the other way LOL!!!!

Since I was running the truck myself for the first time I chose not to do that but challenged him basically to the best E.T.
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Old 03-25-2005, 09:35 PM
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well in all honesty i dont drive the cars i work on i just keep'em going and make parts..but i've lived at the dragstrip all my life...been doing it since 1973...my friend lou has a '69 mustang mach 1 we built in a garage back in '80...his street '69 mach1 was running 10.13 at around 125 in '79 and he did'nt want to chop it up and cage it and tubs and etc... so we built a car from scratch and dropped a '69 mach 1 body on it...the car was on the cover and featured in "bracket racing u.s.a." magazine sept'93...427's 428's and a few 390's motor combo's in it all its life along with a 4 speed lenco transmission ...we built our own 2X4 aluminum manifold for it and it went 8.84 @ 154 right outta the gate by just changing the manifold..not touching the carburators after the car was running 9.13 9.15 all day long...i've been crew cheif on a super comp dragster too...so drags are a big part of my life...reaction time is everything....i did drive the mustang a couple of times in testing so lou could see it from the outside...(i dont have "go fast" licence) and still went 9.50...but this was testing and MY reaction times were in the zzzzzzzzzzz range...but i know that you win and loose in the STARTING LINE... get a practice tree and set it up to your viehicle and start drilling the tree...keep the belts tight and go for it...good luck...zap!
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Old 03-26-2005, 09:41 AM
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HEHEHEHE!!!

Maybe you are who I need to talk to in regard to making an aluminum Intake for my Fuelie 4.6L. in the Lil 280 inch cat!!!!!!!

Have a good one ZAP!!! Oh and BTW, If you get or read Muscle Mustangs and Fast Ford Mags and have the 99 and 2001 issues, the "Big Cat"of mine been in there and from what I hear earlier this spring, I may be at Englishtown for a Photoshoot and shooutout in June also. Not bad for a little stocker huh!!!

Have a great holiday weekend.
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Old 03-26-2005, 10:49 AM
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well if it all works out let us know..if we hit atco or e-town this year i'll let you know when we will be down that way..good luck!and stay in the groove...zap!
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:47 PM
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my 04

04 Scab FX4

hey guys, that was good run for stock. my 04 with just hypertech programmer, intake, and flowmaster exhaust ran a 15.397 1/4 mile at 87 mph the beat both hemi's there they were running 15.6's

Now have roush charger with 8pound pulley and roush intake /electric waterpump/fans Gibson headers/ plasma ignition booster/ exhaust cutouts behind headers/ and flowmaster muffler. Havent been able to take it to the track yet.. I'll update you.
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:25 PM
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Thats great!!!

Tell me what your mods were and what style truck you have in comparison to mine. Always like to share new information. How much was the intake and exhaust worth on your truck and where do you run.

The more I know the better! Good luck on that SC. Let us know how she responds to that.
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Old 04-21-2005, 10:28 PM
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1/4 mile runs

Hey i have the 04 Fx4 Supercab ran 15.397 with the HYPERTECH PROGRAMMER II, K&N Intake, which i have both forsale, if anyone is interested...
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