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Old 05-14-2009, 01:57 AM
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i have been running 1 controller on 2 fans for 2 years now and no problems. paid 170 for everthing. but since mine doesnt say troyer i guess its not as good. just paying for the name right.

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Old 05-14-2009, 02:15 AM
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I am glad for you that you are running only one controller. This Kit has two. So if you want to duplicate the kit you will have to use two. Unless you purchase the Kit you will not have the Troyer mount kit. It is unique to the Troyer kit. The Troyer kit comes with detailed install instructions. Again apples to apples please.

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Old 05-14-2009, 01:26 PM
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Hey, JMC........

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Unless you purchase the Kit you will not have the Troyer mount kit. It is unique to the Troyer kit. The Troyer kit comes with detailed install instructions.
Not to hijack this thread by any means, but a post in another section named you as an individual that may wired in manual overide switches in the Troyer setup.

I just ordered the kit and am considering this option when I do the install. If you have this option installed do you feel it's necessary with Troyer's dual controller setup or is it just overkill?
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:55 PM
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Not to hijack this thread by any means, but a post in another section named you as an individual that may wired in manual overide switches in the Troyer setup.

I just ordered the kit and am considering this option when I do the install. If you have this option installed do you feel it's necessary with Troyer's dual controller setup or is it just overkill?
I did indeed wire in a disable switch and individual activation switches. The disable switch so the fan doesn't suck itself into the rad and chew it up when I am in the water. The activation switches are just insurance in case things go south in the middle of nowhere. I would have these switches regardless of the kit I install. I have had the engine compartment covered in mud to the point that one would think that the truck and engine were brown. I also carry water to wash the mud out of the alternator when mud gets packed in there and it stops charging. I do not like walking out of the bush. Specially not at night. So to answer your question it is overkill

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Old 05-15-2009, 12:26 AM
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JMC from your reply it...........

sounds like you enjoy "gettin' dirty". I can see why you employed those features you have in your fan install.

And now to my next question........yeah that's right, you wouldn't happen to have wiring diagrams on your switch install would you? I'm not a novice when it comes to wiring things up, but I am when it comes to engineering my own circuit.
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What are you guys going to set your fans to come on too?
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:15 AM
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sounds like you enjoy "gettin' dirty". I can see why you employed those features you have in your fan install.

And now to my next question........yeah that's right, you wouldn't happen to have wiring diagrams on your switch install would you? I'm not a novice when it comes to wiring things up, but I am when it comes to engineering my own circuit.
I just imagined it in my head and built it. I am sure I can put it to paper for you. Its 2:15 A.M. here and i am about to wolfdown a burger then off to bed but I will get to it later this morning when I get up for breakfast.

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Old 05-15-2009, 08:49 AM
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Just a reminder! Anyone on the fence about buying one of these kits? Well, today is THE LAST DAY! Troyer is giving us a group price and we have indeed met the minimum. Can't wait to get mine!

Anyway, just give them a call. You won't be disappointed!
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:42 AM
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As promised here are the schematics for the Kill switch and the On switch. I used Single throw double pole 40 amp relays.
FAN ON SWITCH



Kill Switch


As far as I know the yellow wire on the fan controller is what powers the controllers. If I remember correctly the instructions say to wire it to a hot in run only source. If you use the relay the way I have it set up it will interrupt the flow when the switch is turned on. I used illuminated switches so I could see when they were on. Red was used for the Kill switch as it attracts your attention. Green for the two ON switches

Here is an old pic of the Kill switch when on. There is only one green switch but since that pic was taken there is a second green switch to power the other fan.




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Last edited by JMC; 05-20-2009 at 05:25 PM. Reason: New Kill switch diagram
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:58 AM
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Thanks alot JMC.......

Great, easy to follow diagrams Should make the job go quite smoothly.

I know I wasn't the only one interested in this mod, so you've made more than one person a happy camper today

Thanks again


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Old 05-15-2009, 05:38 PM
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just pulled the trigger myself,, E-fans and UD pulleys thanks to all that got this started
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:52 AM
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I cant believe I missed this!!!!... I was just about to post a question on this subject... Oh well...maybe Ill call em on monday and see if they would do me the solid and extend the deal...I can only think of four letter words right now... (smile) Okay well I do have a question...are the troyers better then flex lite?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:41 PM
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As promised here are the schematics for the Kill switch and the On switch. I used Single throw double pole 40 amp relays.
FAN ON SWITCH



Kill Switch


As far as I know the yellow wire on the fan controller is what powers the controllers. If I remember correctly the instructions say to wire it to a hot in run only source. If you use the relay the way I have it set up it will interrupt the flow when the switch is turned on. I used illuminated switches so I could see when they were on. Red was used for the Kill switch as it attracts your attention. Green for the two ON switches

Here is an old pic of the Kill switch when on. There is only one green switch but since that pic was taken there is a second green switch to power the other fan.




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Question on your fan on wiring. The hot wire to the fan (pin 87 on relay), is this wire spliced into the fan power wire from the controller? If yes, have you had any poblems burning out the diode in the controller? I ordered the E fans on Friday. I talked with Mike Troyer and he was telling they did have past issues with the controllers. He said the diode in the fan power circuit was unable to absorb the feed back voltage when the fans were free spinning. This was causing to much heat build up. This is how I plan on wiring fan ON override.

This would eliminate any feed back to the controller. With switch off pin 30 an 87a are connected. Switch on pin 30 and 87 are connected.

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Old 05-18-2009, 08:27 PM
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I have had no issues with controllers other than having to replace the high temp one when it was covered in mud. When you get the instructions from the Troyer kit it will instruct you to find a hot in run power source and splice the yellow wire into that circuit. In the case of my kit it provided the wire colour and I connected it. If you notice my diagram the switch is in the open position and it allows current to flow through the yellow circuit wire. Pin 87a is always connected to pin 30 when the relay is not energized (turned on). If you turn on the switch it will power the relay and open the circuit effectively turning off the fans. I do not use pin 87 on the kill switch relay. My kill switch is illuminated and has a red telltale light to warn me that the fans are turned off. For the sake of redundancy I use one relay for one function. That way when shît happens I have spare circuits that did not get taken out by some mishap.

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Old 05-18-2009, 10:43 PM
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Sorry about last post. Image did not show at first. It is the fan on wiring I was wondering about. Not the kill switch.
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