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Old 10-29-2009, 02:36 PM
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Ford hot rod "first" rear-wheel-drive application of 3.5EB/400 hp & 400ft-lb tq
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The article makes it sound like we'll see the end of the V-8 before too long...

I don't know if I fully understand the hype surrounding the EcoBoost. It's like Ford engineers are the first people to figure out that turbos are efficient and make good power?

I just wonder how a turbo V6 will compare to a N/A V8 in a truck application. Think: low-end torque, pulling poiwer, etc. I don't want to wait for the boost to build and spin the motor at high rpm's just to get my truck up to speed on a freeway on-ramp...
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Look up the tq curve on a EB. FLAT. It will drive like a torque pig.

The diff with these units is direct injection. It has two small turbos that spool up very quickly. What we need to see is a EB and a 6.2L and how they compare to each other with a 10,000lb trailer, up a hill. And then empty highway cruising mpg. I see those two things and I'll make my decision. I'm sure the EB will outperform the new 5.0L which is a 4v'er.
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The article makes it sound like we'll see the end of the V-8 before too long...

I don't know if I fully understand the hype surrounding the EcoBoost. It's like Ford engineers are the first people to figure out that turbos are efficient and make good power?

I just wonder how a turbo V6 will compare to a N/A V8 in a truck application. Think: low-end torque, pulling poiwer, etc. I don't want to wait for the boost to build and spin the motor at high rpm's just to get my truck up to speed on a freeway on-ramp...
I agree with the other comment that the torque curve on the EB looks nice and flat. Turbo charged motors typically have the added bonus of being able to be tweaked to death to achieve nice torque curves, etc. As for waiting for the turbos to spool up, it's gotta be better than the throttle response of the current trucks... anyone else agree that the electronic throttle control on the 5.4 sucks when passing on the highway? Seems like I have to punch it two seconds before I need power in order to pass someone.
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I don't know if I fully understand the hype surrounding the EcoBoost. It's like Ford engineers are the first people to figure out that turbos are efficient and make good power?
Ford have been using turbos a lot longer than you know. Check back to the days of the group b rally cars in the 80's like the 2.0l 700+ hp rs200's and the 2.0l 800hp+ Cosworths.
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Ford have been using turbos a lot longer than you know. Check back to the days of the group b rally cars in the 80's like the 2.0l 700+ hp rs200's and the 2.0l 800hp+ Cosworths.
Exactly my point. But I guess they've got to create some marketing hype to push the new motors. I'm definitely interested to see how the new EB motors perform...
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Those turbos are so small...

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Ford have been using turbos a lot longer than you know. Check back to the days of the group b rally cars in the 80's like the 2.0l 700+ hp rs200's and the 2.0l 800hp+ Cosworths.
Cosworths were awesome
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Those turbos are so small...
That is how they get the flat torque curve. The bigger turbo you go with on a small displacement engine like this, the longer it takes for the turbos to spool and the more "supra" like the torque curve looks. I have driven twin turbo 6 cylinders (like the BMW 335i) and you don't even know that you are depending on boost to make the power, it is there and smooth as a V8.....now, a twin turbo'd V8 would be a whole lot cooler
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