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Old 12-05-2000, 05:49 PM
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I'll try again..I can't get the switch out,,whats the secret ? Thanks
 
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Old 12-05-2000, 06:38 PM
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Houndog,

Mine was so tight I almost gave up on it. Finally, what I did was use a rag around a butterknife blade and gently pry the right side of top center. Then I pulled with my fingernails and it started to come out at the 3 o'clock position. Then I used my fingernails at that point and it came out on the right hand side. Once I had the right side in my hands, I gently worked the left side from there.

After seeing it firsthand, it appears as though a very thin instrument such as a small metal fingernail file could be inserted in the "slot" at the bottom to disengage the bottom metal clip and then work from there. That must be what the dealer does, otherwise the slot wouldn't be there. Just take your time and use a rag on the prying instrument so you don't "dent" your dash. Well, except fingernails, of course. Just take your time, it will come out. Don't use the **** to pull on, it's relatively fragile. Any other ?'s I'll be happy to answer.

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I need help in my lightning mine is a 99 and have only 6 wires in the three plugs so you said there is 9 wires could you tell me what i should do i have cut the pisce out of the light switch so whats next need your help on the

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Old 12-06-2000, 04:33 AM
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FASTBOLTof LIGHT
Have you tried the Mod of adding the toggle
switch and tapping into I believe the yellow
wire then going through the switch contacs to
a hot wire. ALso ground the switch case.Then
you can turn the lites to parking and turn on the toggle and the Fogs should come on. Be
careful when you though the switch as to not bounce onto off. I have blown fuses but thats all and I run with only the Fogs most of the time. Make sure to check my wire colors out I would have to pull it apart to make sure I'm correct.There was a post thatI
printed out onhow its done but don't remember
where it was. Sorry I hope I helped?

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Old 12-06-2000, 04:34 AM
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FASTBOLTof LIGHT
Have you tried the Mod of adding the toggle
switch and tapping into I believe the yellow
wire then going through the switch contacs to
a hot wire. ALso ground the switch case.Then
you can turn the lites to parking and turn on the toggle and the Fogs should come on. Be
careful when you though the switch as to not bounce onto off. I have blown fuses but thats all and I run with only the Fogs most of the time. Make sure to check my wire colors out I would have to pull it apart to make sure I'm correct.There was a post thatI
printed out onhow its done but don't remember
where it was. Sorry I hope I helped?

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Old 12-06-2000, 09:29 AM
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I collected a bunch of info on the headlight mods and posted it all together ( With Authors permission ) on my site - You might find the info you are looking for there.... Click on the how to link www.SVTLightnings.com

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I realize I've resurected a post that's almost a year old. But I just did this. I was frustrated that unlike my Jeep Grand Cherokee, I couldn't keep the driving lights on with auto-lamps or turn them on with the parking lights only.

Man am I impressed with the guys that took the time to post everything. My switch now acts and feels like OEM and does everything I wanted. Driving lights with autolamp and with parking lights.

Big Kudo's to Doug and his SVT Lightning Site where he has consolidated these guys hard work. Click on "Links to how to's" on the left.

Each version was helpful. If you do it, don't mis What04's description at the bottom where he suggests increasing the notch around the shaft just enough to have the OEM feel **** "click" into place in auto-lamp. It makes a huge difference if you want that OEM feel.

One thing that may be obvious but I didn't catch it at first, you can easily remove the **** from the shaft to disassemble the switch enough to make the cutting and filing very easy. On the opposite side from the white mark on the front of the ****, you'll see and small square opening. I used a nail to slide in push and viola, it pops off and you can see how to do the rest when you see the shaft.

Also, I cut the heat tabs; it was easy and I couldn't see how in the world anyone sould do the mods without opeing it up. I tried to use super glue but the bottle we had was so old, it didn't work. Here's another tip. I took a nail, heated the tip and (holding with pliers I might add) reheated the heat tabs and the thing was back together tight as new. I just poked the hot nail right back into the hole with the heat tab. Worked great and clean too!

A free mod (except for the tap clip to splice the wires if you elect to do that part.

I did this at the same time I installed my Xenon 9007's so I'll be driving somewhere, anywhere as soon as it gets dark to check them out!!

Kudo's guys, you all did a great job with the instructions and to Doug for putting it all in one place.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by lightning_svt:
UPDATE FOR 2000 LIGHTNINGS:

I just found this accidently today on my truck, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on all 2000's. Apparently, the fog/driving lights are already wired to be able to turn on with the autolamps... BUT, one needs to grind out the 'rail' that keeps the switch from being pulled out in the autolamp position.

I can only offer a text description for now, but I hope to have pics and full instructions once I finish up this little project. My inspiration was an email from Struck99, but his directions did not correspond from his '99 to my '00. So a little exploratory surgery was in order. Here's what I did:

1) I first removed the one-piece headlamp/dimmer switch console from the dash. This console has three metal clips holding it in the dash - one on the bottom-middle where the 'notch' is, one on the left-middle, and one on the top-right (horizontally to the right of the dimmer switch, but on the top of the console). I simply used a small screwdriver to coax these clips into releasing the console from the dash. I then unplugged the two electrical bus connectors (one for the headlamp switch, and one for the dimmer switch) from the console

(NOTE: Since this is a single-piece part, I chose NOT to take off the faceplate to make any alterations. I'm sure one can take the thing apart and superglue/epoxy it back together, but I'd rather not break plastic pieces apart if I don't absolutely have to. )

2) If you look into the console from the bottom, you should be able to see the mechanical headlamp switch mechanism. There's a black plastic column that's attached to the headlamp switch that should rotate as you move the switch to its different positions (autolamp, off, park, on). Also attached to that column, inside the console, there's a black plastic 'arm' - this, along with the 'ramped' white plastic collar around the switch, is what prevents the headlamp **** from being pulled out in any position except the 'on' headlamp position.

The easiest way to find the 'ramped' white plastic collar I am talking about is to turn the switch to the full on headlamp and foglamp position (turn switch full clockwise and pull it out). Now look for the black plastic arm. Now watch that arm as you slowly turn the switch counter-clockwise back to the park position. You should see the arm ride on a white plastic collar surrounding the whole headlamp switch mechanism. There is a 'ramp' in this collar that forces the switch to pop back inward when you turn from the 'on' position to the 'park' position. Good luck, this can be a little confusing.

3) Using a small file, I filed down the white plastic collar at the positions I wanted to be able to pull out the headlamp switch to activate the foglamps. I filed down the ramp at the 'park' position, but duplicated the slope on the other side of that position. So now the switch stays pulled-out in the 'on' and 'park' position, but still pops back in when I turn to 'off'. For the autolamp position, I simply filed a notch without the ramp - by this time I was too tired and couldn't get a good position for the file to create the ramp, but I'll probably try again later.

That's it for making the foglamps work with just the autolamps. Simply clean out the filings, reassemble everything, turn the headlamp switch to autolamp, wait until it's dark or cover the autolamp sensor (where is the autolamp sensor? I just waited till it was dark to test this), and then pull out on the headlamp switch. If this phenomenon isn't limited to my truck, your foglights should turn on now!

Now, this is a work in progress, because now I have to figure out what the ten wires/pins on the headlamp switch are so I can rewire, splice, jumper, diode, or whatever in order to be able to turn on the foglamps with just the parking lights. Hopefully I'll have this figured out tomorrow, and I'll post my findings here. Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to document everything while it was still fresh in my memory. Any questions, let me know!

~rick

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Thank you very much for the info. My Expedition does not have autolamps so there are only eight wires going into the connector. The two wires you mentioned are still the ones to splice (black w/ white stripe and brown) without autolamps. By the way, the item you use to splice the two wires is called a Scotchlock (as in 3M). Again, thanks for the research and info.

 
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Old 04-03-2001, 09:03 PM
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i did the driving light mod today by splicing the the headlamp output wire with the driving light wire. it took me anout 5 min and cost 1.00 for the splicer and i didnt have to cut anything. i was going to perform the mod as it was in the how too but it seemed too difficult. so i took the wire chart and used it to find out what wires to splice. now that i spliced the whires the driving lights are always on with the headlights. includin autolamp they also stay on for 20 sec when i shut the truck off with the headlights. they only downside is i cannot turn them off (when the headlights are on)and i also cant have only the foglights on. but i can remove the splice easily and there wont be any permanent modifications.
 
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This weekend I attempted the mod on my 2002 F-150 per Rick's write up. I was having an issue once the mechanical and electrical mod was complete. Per instruction, it said to connect #2 (W/BK) and #12 (BN) with a jumper. When I did this I had my low beams coming on in the parking lamp switch position. After some testing and trials I found that I needed to cut the #2 (W/BK) wire. The splice remains between #2 and #12 going into the switch but the #2 (W/BK) wire going to the vehicle is no longer connected. This corrected the issue and all operation is good.



This is not a Canadian vehicle but I noticed that the write up spoke of cutting the #2 (W/BK) wire away from the switch connector. It was unclear which side of the splice the cut was made.
 



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