Pickuptruck.com article on Lightning concept [merged]
#3
Originally posted by Fast Gator
a good read but the one thing that stands out, is the price approaching 50K
Maybe they will have 10 yr financing then
a good read but the one thing that stands out, is the price approaching 50K
Maybe they will have 10 yr financing then
Last edited by Spanky99L; 08-31-2005 at 01:05 AM.
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Originally posted by Spanky99L
thats prob just there to see what dodge does with the POS viper truck. if dodge keeps the price there so will SVT
thats prob just there to see what dodge does with the POS viper truck. if dodge keeps the price there so will SVT
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50k US is too much
Originally posted by Intel486
Seriously, if this truck costs $50k. How many people will be buying it?
I don't think the'll sell all 5000 they make in a year at that price.
Seriously, if this truck costs $50k. How many people will be buying it?
I don't think the'll sell all 5000 they make in a year at that price.
If it becomes a big-buck supercar, then you compete with other big-buck supercars. And the 5000 lbs will make you lose...
#12
While it could very well be a $50k+ truck, I don't think it will be.
(The following is all guesses by me, not something I claim is fact)
Reason I say this is, probably the most expensive part of this changeover that actually comes from Lightning's budget is the engine and transmission changes. More the engine then the transmission, unless they end up developing a new auto tranny for the Lightning or something, rather then use the 6-speed like the concept has. The engine is a new design, but its mainly being developed for the GT40, and (I think) will also will be offered through Ford Racing as an aftermarket racing engine. The GT40's budget I am guessing, has absorbed most of the engine development cost already, and since its based on the mod engine design wasn't an entirely new design which should also make it cheaper overall to produce with just some retooling etc.
The powercooler function, if it makes it to production might be a decent cost initially since this is a totally new introduction of the technology. But its also one they sounded as if they might try to move across more platforms then just the Lightning as well, which could help spread the cost some. Also this idea has been around for 10 years, so its possible that SVT has already worked this out in the past.
The IRS is already being used in the Expedition, and should only need some performance tweaking if put on the Lightning, and from my understanding the new chassis allows this to happen whereas the old one would have been a refab situation. The front suspension, rims, and tires are probably some minimal cost items as well and maybe some re-used parts.
The brakes are probably going to be something that is shared by GT40 also I am guessing, or just upgrades to what we already have (which isn't that bad).
The interior/exterior is mainly just changing the new body style some, its not a new Lightning only body, just a tweaked 04 F-150 body.
I know your probably thinking, "If the GT40 engine is in the Lightning, and it costs $110k+, how can the Lightning be less then $50k?" Well what you have to remember is the GT40 is a totally new design, new chassis, new engine, and so forth whereas the Lightning is a tuned version of an existing platform.
Basically the biggest change (other then bodystyle) is the engine and IRS options, both of which will be taken from existing platforms, which should allow the cost to stay in the $40k range I believe.
Of course I could be way off...
(The following is all guesses by me, not something I claim is fact)
Reason I say this is, probably the most expensive part of this changeover that actually comes from Lightning's budget is the engine and transmission changes. More the engine then the transmission, unless they end up developing a new auto tranny for the Lightning or something, rather then use the 6-speed like the concept has. The engine is a new design, but its mainly being developed for the GT40, and (I think) will also will be offered through Ford Racing as an aftermarket racing engine. The GT40's budget I am guessing, has absorbed most of the engine development cost already, and since its based on the mod engine design wasn't an entirely new design which should also make it cheaper overall to produce with just some retooling etc.
The powercooler function, if it makes it to production might be a decent cost initially since this is a totally new introduction of the technology. But its also one they sounded as if they might try to move across more platforms then just the Lightning as well, which could help spread the cost some. Also this idea has been around for 10 years, so its possible that SVT has already worked this out in the past.
The IRS is already being used in the Expedition, and should only need some performance tweaking if put on the Lightning, and from my understanding the new chassis allows this to happen whereas the old one would have been a refab situation. The front suspension, rims, and tires are probably some minimal cost items as well and maybe some re-used parts.
The brakes are probably going to be something that is shared by GT40 also I am guessing, or just upgrades to what we already have (which isn't that bad).
The interior/exterior is mainly just changing the new body style some, its not a new Lightning only body, just a tweaked 04 F-150 body.
I know your probably thinking, "If the GT40 engine is in the Lightning, and it costs $110k+, how can the Lightning be less then $50k?" Well what you have to remember is the GT40 is a totally new design, new chassis, new engine, and so forth whereas the Lightning is a tuned version of an existing platform.
Basically the biggest change (other then bodystyle) is the engine and IRS options, both of which will be taken from existing platforms, which should allow the cost to stay in the $40k range I believe.
Of course I could be way off...
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It's hard to tell from a pic on the actual real-deal ! but, one thing for sure I hope they don't let dodge push them off the mountain I like most of the truck but, some things are fuggly as far as the paddle system for the tranny I've driven Beamers with that tranny when they are working good they are quick shifting boxes probably alot quicker then anyone can manual shift and looze boost while doing it. I think I'll sit back and wait awhile for good things to come of this monster !
Last edited by SMOKINTRUCK#1; 03-30-2003 at 11:20 AM.
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