I find it interesting to shoot the breeze with all types of people into vehicles and I have to say I hear a lot of interesting things.

I find that these older guys have good tricks with handling little snags when doing work (we were talking about doing headers as I plan on this summer), but many seem really closed off to new technology. I was talking to a guy at work yesterday about vehicles (he has 5.0 Screw) and talks about how the boosted 4cyl/6cyl technology is bad and the engine design isn't up to snuff like a diesel is. He took a steamy dump all over the ecoboost. While there may have been some truth to some of what he said, I'm curious what others have found when talking to people that are most into older cars. I hope the kinks are continuously worked out with those motors because someday I'd like one in a car if Ford can get an actually sport sedan that doesn't weigh a crap ton going to compete with Cadillac, Audi or BMW. It's just weird I guess. I hear great things about the 5.0 and the newer ecoboosts and see less complaints on here and all I heard was about issues and such when he had mentioned talking to dealers. I can think for myself and see a lot of issues online, but as we know, forums tend to attract that.

 

I do all the time, I talk to myself a lot.

 

Old people don't like change. They can't believe a 5.0L makes twice the power of larger displacement engines from 40 years ago. And a TT3.5L makes similar numbers as well

 

it is hard to compete with a memory.

every old guy i talk to had a stock 327 corvette that would smoke my z06. or a 390 truck that would beat anything in town.

i take a lot of advice from older guys, but when it comes to women and how fast our car are..............

i grew up in the 70's and i remember new cars crapping out and everyone having a mechanic on a first name basis.

 

Alot of the old farts are V8 or nothing

Dad has a friend that is 89 years old and had V8's his whole life and was driving a 2012 5.0. He trades trucks every couple years. Dad kept telling him about my EB and he just kept blowing him off and sometime's almost just rude about a v6 in a truck. One day i took them to lunch and we took my truck. The old man couldn't believe it was a V6. 2 months later he is now driving a 14 Limited Eb and brags on it all the time.

 

Since I grew up in the muscle car era and had a '66 GTO myself...it was hard for me at first to believe the small cubic inch engines could produce as much power as they do. All it took was doing a dealer swap for my son in law. I drove a brand new '13 Lariat with the 5.0 to a dealer 130 miles away and swapped for the same truck with the Ecoboost engine. Driving back it didn't take me long to know I wanted one and this prompted me to get the '13 I'm driving now. Only small Ford engine that impressed me like that was the Yamaha designed Taurus SHO back in 1989 when I was selling and test driving the new Ford's.

 

Every one is a product of their times. You have to understand that I grew up in a time that if you wanted performance, you had to build it. That usually involved an engine swap into a lighter body. One guy I knew had a 50 model Plymouth coupe with a 56 Olds tri power in it. I had a 54 Ford coupe with a 57 TBird 312. Then came 1960 and then 1962. You could order an Impala SS with a 327 tri power, 4 speed in the floor. Hot rodding changed forever. You could order factory hot rods.

 

Pat, you're wrong! Why just yesterday I changed my jockey shorts and I'd only worn the old ones a couple months. They were hardly broken in! Quality lasts!

- Jack

 

I completely get what you guys mean - but a lot of the time what I hear is rather uneducated sounding. Like 5.0's having chronic cam phaser issues...

Interesting stuff too... Coy's is funny

 

I wasn't alive back then, but didn't 1961 come between 1960 and 1962

 

Probably a leap year!!

 

1961 was pretty much repeat of 1960. It was 1962 when you could go in an order a pretty much complete hot rod as everyday transportation. Bucket seats, 4 speed, positrac, two fours or tri power or single 4 barrel. That was the period when the hot rod one built might not outrun a factory production. It was a strange feeling for car enthusiast. That is why guys my age are most always partial to something built over factory production. Took imagination, time and skill to fabricate.

 

What comes around goes around -- someday you will be the "old guy" hanging onto your Eco-Boost technology while all the "young snots" are tooling around in hot Mustangs fueled by left-over orange rinds!

I had a brother-in-law back in Minnesota that had to be drug to front-wheel-drive cars kicking and screaming! However, once he was forced into one (Buick stopped making large RWD cars) and found out how good they pulled in the snow he was sold!

I suspect I might be like that with gasoline or diesel fueled vehicles -- the sound of an engine is like music to me and can't stand the idea of electric vehicles or even "start-stop" technology! If I wanted to drive a golf cart I'd go buy one of the friggin' things!

 

That's how I am and that's why I'm big into exhausts but I look forward to the 35-40mpg in my fusion purchase real soon. Buy it will be great to hop behind the wheel of my truck and listen to it over the 4 banger. You just can't beat the mileage. Pretty much pays for itself as you and coy must see with the cavaliers.

 

Yes -- over the past two weeks I have put 1981 miles on my Cavalier and averaged just a shade over 30 mpg -- while the gas savings is nice, the real benefit is that it kept almost 2000 miles off of one of my other vehicles and piled it all on the low-cost Cavalier......