Ouch. Say it ain't so Ford.
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This isn't any different than some of the advertising by Ford or Ram or Toyota. The test is engineered so that their product stands out while the competition sucks. Kinda like the crap you see in the 2015 Ford forum right here by TFL. Absolutely absurd some of the gimmicks. Why Ford allows this is beyond me as they are doing themselves more harm than good. Folks buy Ford because of value for the dollar spent and reliability. They don't buy them because they finished first in a 282 foot drag strip or because some dimwit says it pulls a trailer better. Chevy did themselves no favor with this one either. So unloaded the rear wheel was higher off of the ground and the tailgate opened. How about we max out the truck with a load and see if that GM frame breaks or comes down bent. Rigid can be a bad thing. Controlled flexing like a tree in a hurricane is a good thing. It's all smoke and mirrors folks.
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A vehicle should be flexible, imo, up to a certain point.
However, I bet if you took each of those trucks and twisted them until the broke their frames, the GM would be a much more violent failure than the Ford would. Elasticity gives the Ford frame more energy absorption to it approaches it's failure in a more controlled manner.
I'd rather have a larger elastic zone in the steel than one that reaches it's yield stress within a short strain period.
However, I bet if you took each of those trucks and twisted them until the broke their frames, the GM would be a much more violent failure than the Ford would. Elasticity gives the Ford frame more energy absorption to it approaches it's failure in a more controlled manner.
I'd rather have a larger elastic zone in the steel than one that reaches it's yield stress within a short strain period.
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A vehicle should be flexible, imo, up to a certain point.
However, I bet if you took each of those trucks and twisted them until the broke their frames, the GM would be a much more violent failure than the Ford would. Elasticity gives the Ford frame more energy absorption to it approaches it's failure in a more controlled manner.
I'd rather have a larger elastic zone in the steel than one that reaches it's yield stress within a short strain period.
However, I bet if you took each of those trucks and twisted them until the broke their frames, the GM would be a much more violent failure than the Ford would. Elasticity gives the Ford frame more energy absorption to it approaches it's failure in a more controlled manner.
I'd rather have a larger elastic zone in the steel than one that reaches it's yield stress within a short strain period.
Except Chevy isn't claiming any sort of frame strength, only the strength of the bed floor that holds the bedsides rigid, so this is less of an issue.
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Like Labnerd said, every manufacturer has videos just like that one. They show one (or maybe a couple) particular aspect of their product and how it's superior to some other brand. Ford has them showing weak points on GM trucks. Dodge has them showing weak points in Ford trucks, etc. The plain truth is that no one brand is superior in all aspects. If it was, who would buy anything else?
The sad truth is that folks fall for these videos every single day. A co-worker's brother showed up the other day with a brand new Chevy. (He'd been driving a Ford.) He proudly claimed that the Chevy dealer had showed him a video that proved Fords were junk. I asked him if he'd stopped into a Ford (or any other dealer) and asked to see their videos. "Why no" he replied. "Then you're a idiot" I offered. But, since dealers (and manufacturers) depend on idiots to buy their products, the system had worked yet again.
The sad truth is that folks fall for these videos every single day. A co-worker's brother showed up the other day with a brand new Chevy. (He'd been driving a Ford.) He proudly claimed that the Chevy dealer had showed him a video that proved Fords were junk. I asked him if he'd stopped into a Ford (or any other dealer) and asked to see their videos. "Why no" he replied. "Then you're a idiot" I offered. But, since dealers (and manufacturers) depend on idiots to buy their products, the system had worked yet again.
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So in theory, if the cab is solid, bed is solid (no flex) it sounds like there would be a tremendous amount of stress on the frame section between the last bolt on the cab and the front bolt of the bed. And the cab and bed rigidity would actually act as additional leverage on that short intermediate section.