Ouch. Say it ain't so Ford.

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Old 10-16-2014, 08:29 PM
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:54 PM
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They call that a real world test? Whoever would park with two tires in the air with a payload in the back deserves to have their frame bent
 
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Old 10-17-2014, 12:10 AM
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This isn't any different than some of the advertising by Ford or Ram or Toyota. The test is engineered so that their product stands out while the competition sucks. Kinda like the crap you see in the 2015 Ford forum right here by TFL. Absolutely absurd some of the gimmicks. Why Ford allows this is beyond me as they are doing themselves more harm than good. Folks buy Ford because of value for the dollar spent and reliability. They don't buy them because they finished first in a 282 foot drag strip or because some dimwit says it pulls a trailer better. Chevy did themselves no favor with this one either. So unloaded the rear wheel was higher off of the ground and the tailgate opened. How about we max out the truck with a load and see if that GM frame breaks or comes down bent. Rigid can be a bad thing. Controlled flexing like a tree in a hurricane is a good thing. It's all smoke and mirrors folks.
 
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Old 10-17-2014, 10:00 AM
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That's it I'm selling my truck right now

I'd bet any dollar amount that 99% of truck owners don't do that to their truck ever. Even at a job site.
 
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:39 PM
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This is so stupid. Who parks with full suspension flex like that? Almost no one, ever. Real job site conditions my ***.
 
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:37 PM
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A vehicle should be flexible, imo, up to a certain point.

However, I bet if you took each of those trucks and twisted them until the broke their frames, the GM would be a much more violent failure than the Ford would. Elasticity gives the Ford frame more energy absorption to it approaches it's failure in a more controlled manner.

I'd rather have a larger elastic zone in the steel than one that reaches it's yield stress within a short strain period.
 
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:57 PM
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Of course too much flex is a bad thing too right Toyota?

 
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Old 10-17-2014, 03:33 PM
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Do that with a full payload in it and see what happens to both of them.
 
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Ford had the optional "Slacker" tailgate which I like!
 
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I think they just forgot to unlock the tailgate.
 
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Old 10-17-2014, 05:40 PM
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When I worked for an oilfield supply company 45 yrs ago both the Fords and Chevy's took a lot more beating then that. As much as we could fit in the bed and not blow out tires we would haul it. Trucks were worn out in 2 yrs hauling steel products.
 
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Haha ugh the stupidity of that add. Notice the copycat ford mirrors lol
 
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Originally Posted by dirtyd88
A vehicle should be flexible, imo, up to a certain point.

However, I bet if you took each of those trucks and twisted them until the broke their frames, the GM would be a much more violent failure than the Ford would. Elasticity gives the Ford frame more energy absorption to it approaches it's failure in a more controlled manner.

I'd rather have a larger elastic zone in the steel than one that reaches it's yield stress within a short strain period.
That's true, to an extent. But I'd rather not have my frame reach (or even approach) any sort of plastic deformation haha.

Except Chevy isn't claiming any sort of frame strength, only the strength of the bed floor that holds the bedsides rigid, so this is less of an issue.
 

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Like Labnerd said, every manufacturer has videos just like that one. They show one (or maybe a couple) particular aspect of their product and how it's superior to some other brand. Ford has them showing weak points on GM trucks. Dodge has them showing weak points in Ford trucks, etc. The plain truth is that no one brand is superior in all aspects. If it was, who would buy anything else?

The sad truth is that folks fall for these videos every single day. A co-worker's brother showed up the other day with a brand new Chevy. (He'd been driving a Ford.) He proudly claimed that the Chevy dealer had showed him a video that proved Fords were junk. I asked him if he'd stopped into a Ford (or any other dealer) and asked to see their videos. "Why no" he replied. "Then you're a idiot" I offered. But, since dealers (and manufacturers) depend on idiots to buy their products, the system had worked yet again.
 
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Old 10-22-2014, 11:10 PM
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Except Chevy isn't claiming any sort of frame strength, only the strength of the bed floor that holds the bedsides rigid, so this is less of an issue.
So in theory, if the cab is solid, bed is solid (no flex) it sounds like there would be a tremendous amount of stress on the frame section between the last bolt on the cab and the front bolt of the bed. And the cab and bed rigidity would actually act as additional leverage on that short intermediate section.
 


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