Will the gotts mod be enough for new headers and muffler?
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I did the Gotts mod, I got a bit of a boost on the butt dyno, but noticed it more at the gas pump. I noticed more of an improvement with throttle response with the AirRAID MIT cold air tube. Not sure if a "real"CAI would be any better. Mind you, I already had a K&N on the truck, if you factor the cost of the MIT + the cost of a performance filter, you are getting close to the cost of a full on CAI. I have to admit though, I really do like the look of the AirRAID in the engine compartment over the other types... Just looks cleaner to me...
I digress though. I somewhat suspect that the Gotts mod might not give enough surface area to take advantage of a cat back, but then again, it might. Consider that unless your cat back literally includes the Y pipe, it will pick up 2 2.5" pipes and jam them into a 2.5" pipe before flaring out to a 3" pipe... The Gotts mod uses 3" pipe to get the stuff in, so yeah, it should suffice...
I digress though. I somewhat suspect that the Gotts mod might not give enough surface area to take advantage of a cat back, but then again, it might. Consider that unless your cat back literally includes the Y pipe, it will pick up 2 2.5" pipes and jam them into a 2.5" pipe before flaring out to a 3" pipe... The Gotts mod uses 3" pipe to get the stuff in, so yeah, it should suffice...
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With the AirRAID MIT I gained a notable improvement in throttle response, and my mileage went up yet again, at least when I keep my foot out of it. Driving like a rational human being that is not enjoying the real honest to goodness sound of an American V8 engine, my mileage went up another full 1 MPG, HOWEVER, it is kind of hard not to enjoy the right pedal to the detriment of my mileage... To the tune of about -2 MPG...
I know it is probably due to the higher than typical effective gear ratio, that my mileage is actually decent on road trips on reasonably flat land, say between Houston and Dallas, where I can set the cruise at a reasonable (65-70 mph) pace I am getting in the high teens, have been known to brush up against 20 MPG. Not too bad for a 10 year old 4x4 pickup truck with 95K miles, 35 inch tires and a load in the bed... My in town mileage is dramatically lower than that, averaging 12 - 14 depending on my right foot.
I don't think the stock air box itself is anywhere near a restriction, but the tube going through the fender sure is a restriction, and those baffles in the stock intake can't help things either...
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Echoing above - Gotts mod is not a power-adder. Engines pull in as much air as they can, just about all the time. If the factory intake were inefficient to the point of leaving a lot of power on the table it would face re-design. Perhaps other intakes 'might' make 'some' power, but at the cost of what?
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Not sure how to respond to this. I haven't done a "real" dyno test on mine, but I can tell you what I have experienced is with the Gotts mod, I did get a slight, but perceptible bump in MPG. No clue about actual power. It was along the lines of .2 to .3 MPG consistently.
With the AirRAID MIT I gained a notable improvement in throttle response, and my mileage went up yet again, at least when I keep my foot out of it. Driving like a rational human being that is not enjoying the real honest to goodness sound of an American V8 engine, my mileage went up another full 1 MPG, HOWEVER, it is kind of hard not to enjoy the right pedal to the detriment of my mileage... To the tune of about -2 MPG...
I know it is probably due to the higher than typical effective gear ratio, that my mileage is actually decent on road trips on reasonably flat land, say between Houston and Dallas, where I can set the cruise at a reasonable (65-70 mph) pace I am getting in the high teens, have been known to brush up against 20 MPG. Not too bad for a 10 year old 4x4 pickup truck with 95K miles, 35 inch tires and a load in the bed... My in town mileage is dramatically lower than that, averaging 12 - 14 depending on my right foot.
I don't think the stock air box itself is anywhere near a restriction, but the tube going through the fender sure is a restriction, and those baffles in the stock intake can't help things either...
With the AirRAID MIT I gained a notable improvement in throttle response, and my mileage went up yet again, at least when I keep my foot out of it. Driving like a rational human being that is not enjoying the real honest to goodness sound of an American V8 engine, my mileage went up another full 1 MPG, HOWEVER, it is kind of hard not to enjoy the right pedal to the detriment of my mileage... To the tune of about -2 MPG...
I know it is probably due to the higher than typical effective gear ratio, that my mileage is actually decent on road trips on reasonably flat land, say between Houston and Dallas, where I can set the cruise at a reasonable (65-70 mph) pace I am getting in the high teens, have been known to brush up against 20 MPG. Not too bad for a 10 year old 4x4 pickup truck with 95K miles, 35 inch tires and a load in the bed... My in town mileage is dramatically lower than that, averaging 12 - 14 depending on my right foot.
I don't think the stock air box itself is anywhere near a restriction, but the tube going through the fender sure is a restriction, and those baffles in the stock intake can't help things either...
I agree that the Gotts Mod definitely should make it easier for air to flow better, but the engine can't really use it from the math I've seen. But either way, I'm hard to please. I'd love to drive my truck when it was bone stock, cause LT headers, no cats, full exhaust, custom tunes, etc. I barely noticed.
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Not sure what the engineering math says, but just from my own real world experience I did notice actual honest to goodness MPG gains. And again, throttle response is noticeably better. I did not claim it makes more power, or is faster, but power does come on more smoothly with the intake mod. And honestly, all else being equal, I like the look, and sound of the MIT better than the OE tube..
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From what I remember Bill from PHP did some testing on a 09 5.4 3v with his version of gotts mod. According to the sheets I saw he got a solid 7 horse and torque at 3500 rpms. So yes not a lot and might be hard to notice, but for 20 bucks it's better than nothing.
I did the gotts and notice better throttle response but that was it and it was with canned tunes. Haven't ordered custom tunes yet.
I've debated on getting a used aftermarket intake that is all closed box to get rid of the panel filter and go conical, but for the price new I wouldn't waste the money.
I did the gotts and notice better throttle response but that was it and it was with canned tunes. Haven't ordered custom tunes yet.
I've debated on getting a used aftermarket intake that is all closed box to get rid of the panel filter and go conical, but for the price new I wouldn't waste the money.