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Old 05-08-2001, 04:15 PM
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Unhappy ELECTRICAL PROBLEM...NEED ADVICE

I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH MY BATTERY BEING DRAINED OVERNIGHT. THE ORIGINAL BATTERY IN THE VEHICLE WAS COMPLETEY SHOT SO I REPLACED IT. WITH THE NEW BATTERY IT RAN PERFECTLY FOR 2-3WEEKS, BUT ONE MORNING I WENT TO START IT AND IT WAS COMPLETELY DEAD...NOT EVEN A CLICK. SO I FULLY CHARGED IT AND RAN VOLTAGE TESTS TO SEE IF IT WAS CORRECTLY CHARGED, HOLDING THE CHARGE, AND BEING CHARGED. THEN I CLEANED THE BATTERY CABLES. EVERYTHING CHECKED OUT NORMAL

THE NEXT MORNING IT'S DEAD AGAIN, SO I REMOVED THE BATTERY AND HOOKED UP A BOOSTER PACK TO FURTHER DIAGNOS A POSSIBLE PROBLEM (IN THE MEANTIME I'M CHARGING THE BATTERY AGAIN). IT TURNS OUT THAT SOMETHING IS PULLING FULL DRAW OFF THE PACK. I MADE SURE EVERYTHING WAS OFF AND STARTED PULLING FUSE CIRCUITS AND RELAYS, NOTHING STOPPED THE FULL DRAW. BY NOW THE BATTERY IS FULLY CHARGED AGAIN SO I HOOKED IT UP AND RAN THE SAME TESTS THAT I DID WITH THE PACK...FULL DRAW WAS STILL HAPPENING.

THINKING IT WAS ALTERNATOR OR REGULATOR, I DISCONNECTED THEM FROM THE SYSTEM AND RAN A BYPASS TEST...FULL DRAW WAS STILL EVIDENT ON VOLTMETER OF 13.2 VOLTS. THE POSITIVE CABLE TO POS TERMINAL ON BATTERY SPARKS.

I'VE TESTED EVERYTHING THAT I PERSONALLY KNOW HOW TO...HAS ANYBODY HAD THIS PROBLEM? WHAT ELSE CAN I CHECK? ANY HELP WITH THIS IS MUCH APPRECIATED.

THIS IS A '97 F-150 W/4.6L POWER EVERYTHING WITH NO AFTERMARKET PRODUCTS.

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Old 05-08-2001, 10:20 PM
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Does your hood light shut off when it closes? A bad switch on a trunk light did the same thing to my dad's car..

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Old 05-08-2001, 11:57 PM
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is it a big spark or little? the hood lite will make a little spark. if it's big, start unhooking cables at the starter relay to find where it's coming from.

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Old 05-09-2001, 01:12 AM
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Big Spark! I already eliminated the hood light from the equation. Will check from starter relay...will post results update when I take a look at it.

Thanx for the help man! It's greatly appreciated.

Any other suggestions until then are completely welcome.

 
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Ok, this one has got me stumped. I was thinking it might be the alt., but then you said you unhooked it. You said that you charged and tested the original battery and that it was shot, My qustion is have you tested this new battery? Just something little you may of over looked? If not hope you find what it is.
 
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Old 05-09-2001, 04:27 PM
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Sounds like somewhere you are losing voltage to ground. Might want to check battery connections and cables. If not that, something in the truck is drawing too much power overnight. Hope this helps.

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OK Got an update...along with new questions.

Went to Auto Electric Rebuilder's today. Did an amp test this time, which I should have done instead of the volt test.

The Amp draw off of my battery is .20 to .39. The guy told me that ideally any draw should be around .05 . So I started pulling fuses and found that the #14 Fuse (interior lamp, accessory delay relay), when pulled, dropped it to .07....#15 (GEM Module, CTM Module)pulled, dropped it to .01-.02

Now my first new question is....1)Is .20 or even .39 Amp enough to kill a battery in a short amount of time? 2) Is this a possible GEM issue where I have to trace wires?


We re-checked the alternator and it is charging correctly. My truck does not sit longer than overnight, it is always being driven until as of late, so it is getting charged.

Thanx again for all the helpful insight
 
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Sounds like you found it.
 



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