Do I need to revert back to stock for fuel fliter change?

drewsbu · #1 02-06-2012, 10:04 AM

I tried using the search feature for my topic but found none. I have an edge cts. I dropped my truck off at the local dealer for inspection and new fuel filter. I did not change my tune back to stock since many here have said to leave it, I only unplugged the tuner. I should be fine right?

**JackandJanet** · #2 02-06-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by drewsbu

I tried using the search feature for my topic but found none. I have an edge cts. I dropped my truck off at the local dealer for inspection and new fuel filter. I did not change my tune back to stock since many here have said to leave it, I only unplugged the tuner. I should be fine right?

You'll be fine as long as they don't flash your PCM with a software update. If they do, you'll have to get your programmer "unlocked". (Costs $75 I think.)

- Jack

drewsbu · #3 02-06-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JackandJanet

You'll be fine as long as they don't flash your PCM with a software update. If they do, you'll have to get your programmer "unlocked". (Costs $75 I think.)

- Jack

Thanks Jack,

I should be fine then, I asked the guy not to reflash and I also have that little red plastic do not flash warning cover on my port.

I just get nervous when my baby is in the hospital/shop. haha

drewsbu · #4 02-06-2012, 10:31 AM

also, jack the guy tried to get me to flush my tranny fluid. My truck is a 08 with 30k miles is that normal to do? If so I will have to wait, since my dealer wants $270 to do it.

I will end up taking it to a private shop, since the ford dealer I normally use has been sketchy in repairs as of late. A woman in my office had to get her tranny replaced and the dealer said they replaced it twice. A ford rep flew out to the dealer to take a look and they never replaced it. They scammed Ford on warranty work.

glc · #5 02-06-2012, 11:11 AM

30k tranny changes are only required under "severe service". $270 for a "flush" is excessive. You don't want a "flush", you only want an "exchange". This uses a machine passively, letting the tranny pump do the work of pumping the old fluid out and drawing the new fluid in. A "flush" uses chemicals, which are NOT needed.

The dealer is trying to maximize their profits. Unless your driving is primarily stop and go and/or involves towing, I'd wait till around 60k for an exchange. However, an exchange now certainly wouldn't hurt.

drewsbu · #6 02-06-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by glc

30k tranny changes are only required under "severe service". $270 for a "flush" is excessive. You don't want a "flush", you only want an "exchange". This uses a machine passively, letting the tranny pump do the work of pumping the old fluid out and drawing the new fluid in. A "flush" uses chemicals, which are NOT needed.

The dealer is trying to maximize their profits. Unless your driving is primarily stop and go and/or involves towing, I'd wait till around 60k for an exchange. However, an exchange now certainly wouldn't hurt.

yeah I think thats what he said, "exchange". yeah, I only do stop and go driving and only drive 12 miles a day. Hell, I have the truck for 2 years and put 10k miles on it.

**JackandJanet** · #7 02-06-2012, 01:01 PM

I'm with glc. I don't think your driving qualifies as "severe". If your transmission fluid looks "new" (not darkened/discolored), I'd wait. Your driving hardly brings the transmission up to normal operating temperature, and I can't see it causing any stress on the transmission internals.

- Jack

drewsbu · #8 02-06-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by glc

30k tranny changes are only required under "severe service". $270 for a "flush" is excessive. You don't want a "flush", you only want an "exchange". This uses a machine passively, letting the tranny pump do the work of pumping the old fluid out and drawing the new fluid in. A "flush" uses chemicals, which are NOT needed.

The dealer is trying to maximize their profits. Unless your driving is primarily stop and go and/or involves towing, I'd wait till around 60k for an exchange. However, an exchange now certainly wouldn't hurt.

The service tech called me back, the exchange is $179.99 and the full flush is $279.99. Should I wait on the exchange or get it done now?

chouse17 · #9 02-06-2012, 01:10 PM

Im with jack on this, seems like an unnecessary expense at this point. Like he said, you rarely get the fluid hot enough to hurt it. My opinion, wait!

Fox Fader · #10 02-06-2012, 03:26 PM

For the few minutes that it takes to switch it back to stock, I would have.

drewsbu · #11 02-06-2012, 04:46 PM

Just got back from the dealer, I think they reflashed. How can I tell? I had my port covered with a "Warning do not flash, contact owner" cover which I found was off and placed in my cup holder. Also, the computer display in my truck was different when I turned my truck on. I plugged my cts in and level 2 tunes showed up again. Truck runs normal how can I tell if they screwed me?

PolarisPower500 · #12 02-06-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by drewsbu

Just got back from the dealer, I think they reflashed. How can I tell? I had my port covered with a "Warning do not flash, contact owner" cover which I found was off and placed in my cup holder. Also, the computer display in my truck was different when I turned my truck on. I plugged my cts in and level 2 tunes showed up again. Truck runs normal how can I tell if they screwed me?

That's an easy one. Did they talk to you, offer to provide a 'service', or take your money for anything? Then you got screwed!

Sad world we live in. Everything is over priced and then you don't even get what you pay for anyway.

glc · #13 02-06-2012, 09:36 PM

If I were in your shoes, I'd probably get an exchange now, or soon. Shop around - $180 is still a bit high, just make sure they use Mercon V fluid.

Not getting the trans up to operating temp can be just as hard on it as towing. It also would help in "covering your ass" if you have a trans-related warranty issue, if the dealer determines that you are under "severe service" you may have problems, especially a dealer who appears to be less than honest.

**JackandJanet** · #14 02-07-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by drewsbu

Just got back from the dealer, I think they reflashed. How can I tell? I had my port covered with a "Warning do not flash, contact owner" cover which I found was off and placed in my cup holder. Also, the computer display in my truck was different when I turned my truck on. I plugged my cts in and level 2 tunes showed up again. Truck runs normal how can I tell if they screwed me?

If the programmer still recognizes the truck and the ".hex"/calibration code has not changed, the PCM was not flashed. I suspect they had to hook a diagnostic monitor to the OBDII port to complete the work that was done and simply neglected to reinstall the port cover.

How did the computer display "change"?

My dealership here in Tucson charges $159 for a transmission fluid exchange, and I think they like to do it on a 30,000 mile interval, so, it's probably due using that metric. But, your dealer's a bit expensive.

- Jack

88racing · #15 02-07-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by drewsbu

Just got back from the dealer, I think they reflashed. How can I tell? I had my port covered with a "Warning do not flash, contact owner" cover which I found was off and placed in my cup holder. Also, the computer display in my truck was different when I turned my truck on. I plugged my cts in and level 2 tunes showed up again. Truck runs normal how can I tell if they screwed me?

They probably took the port plug out to hook up their scan tool....pretty much a common practice by techs

And IDK of the many who said not to flash it back to stock before bringing it to a dealer but its not the protocol I and many others were taught....its more economical to get your tunes rewritten for a new hex code then it is to get your programmer unlocked plus new tunes......next time let the service manager know this up front....