well i got my gryphon and did the install. so i mounted it and all and i turned the key on in my truck( did not start it) and then pluged in the gryphon. now after agreeing with the terms and conditions, it did its scan and said> ecm not located. then it says press enter to continue.after that it shuts off.. so now what does that mean?
your prob gonna think ima dummy, lol...but i did put the key on. but i didnt know that i had to turn it another time till all my warning lights came on. i thought i just had to turn it to the acc position...
yea yea...laugh it all up..lol... so i tested it out, put it on level 2 tow(canned) and noticed that 1st gear shifts at a high rpm when i floor it. above 5000 rpm's, i let off the gas a little so it would shift. and it does feel like a hard shift. that normal?
i also did a 0-60 test for the 1st time. im still getting the hang of the gryphon. but 0-60 was 9.5 sec and i wasnt gunnin it.so i know it could do a heck of alot better.
Just wait for your custom tunes Its a night and day difference IMO. Granted I never had a gryphon with canned tunes, just an edge; and I'm not sure how similar the 'canned' tunes are.
Did you set the Max rpms at least 400 more than the highest shift point? For example, if your shift point is 5000, your max rpms should be at least 5400. It has to have rev room to shift.
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Did you set the Max rpms at least 400 more than the highest shift point? For example, if your shift point is 5000, your max rpms should be at least 5400. It has to have rev room to shift.
no i didnt do that cuz i was figuring maybe i should lower the shift point. but i dont want it to rev more then 5400 rpm's due to ballooning. ya noe. but i do understand that if it doesnt have enough room to rev in order to shift, its gonna stay in the current gear and noT shift correctly. i also notice the shifts are harder. more noticeable.( IS THAT A GOOD AND SAFE THING?) i just messed around with the gryphon for about 10 min. tomorrow im off of work so i figure i play around with it alot...
no i didnt do that cuz i was figuring maybe i should lower the shift point. but i dont want it to rev more then 5400 rpm's due to ballooning. ya noe. but i do understand that if it doesnt have enough room to rev in order to shift, its gonna stay in the current gear and noT shift correctly. i also notice the shifts are harder. more noticeable.( IS THAT A GOOD AND SAFE THING?) i just messed around with the gryphon for about 10 min. tomorrow im off of work so i figure i play around with it alot...
it will still shift at 5000 and that is a low, safe number. The 5400 max rpm is to keep the engine from blowing if you blow the tranny. At that point, a balooning TC would not be of concern. You must have that gap.
It is supposed to shift hard, it took all the slippage out.
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it will still shift at 5000 and that is a low, safe number. The 5400 max rpm is to keep the engine from bowing if you blow the tranny. At that point, a balooning TC would not be of concern. You must have that gap.
It is supposed to shift hard, it took all the slippage out.
Jim, I'm going to "qualify" something here, and I know you're aware of it. Yes, AntzFreshWhip, the shifts are going to feel "harder" than they were. That's because the tunes have gotten rid of the "soft" feel that Ford thinks the public wants but that causes unnecessary wear on the clutch bands. The firmer shifts have resulted from increased line pressure, changes in the torque "dive" and a decreased delay between clutch release and lockup.
However, too much firmness can put stress on the mechanicals - not a good thing. In the Custom Options menu, you CAN increase the firmness even more (which reduces the delay in clutch lockup). I advise you to not be aggressive with this.
Jim, I'm going to "qualify" something here, and I know you're aware of it. Yes, AntzFreshWhip, the shifts are going to feel "harder" than they were. That's because the tunes have gotten rid of the "soft" feel that Ford thinks the public wants but that causes unnecessary wear on the clutch bands. The firmer shifts have resulted from increased line pressure, changes in the torque "dive" and a decreased delay between clutch release and lockup.
However, too much firmness can put stress on the mechanicals - not a good thing. In the Custom Options menu, you CAN increase the firmness even more (which reduces the delay in clutch lockup). I advise you to not be aggressive with this.
- Jack
Jack, I was under the impression that he had not changed any of the shift pressures. I would think that the canned tune was safe enough. maybe I am assuming too much.
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yea yea...laugh it all up..lol... so i tested it out, put it on level 2 tow(canned) and noticed that 1st gear shifts at a high rpm when i floor it. above 5000 rpm's, i let off the gas a little so it would shift. and it does feel like a hard shift. that normal?
Its a night and day difference IMO. Granted I never had a gryphon with canned tunes, just an edge; and I'm not sure how similar the 'canned' tunes are.
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