Thoughts and Opinions

[KCFire]

I am ready to get a programmer for my rig for many reasons, probably the same as the rest of you. My question is which one has the best range in the sense of best gains, and also a good fuel saver program. I run 35" tires and have after market exhaust and cold air intake. All Opinions and responses are appreciated.

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[tarajerame]

#1 what gears do you have???

#2 what are you expecting from a tuner??? (you have a gas engine not a diesel)

#3 the gryphon is the most preached tuner on this forum at the current time, the gryphon, sct live wire, sct xcal3 and diablo are the most common ones you will encounter when it comes to custom tunes

#4 custom tunes are the only way to go

[yoheidiho]

Originally Posted by tarajerame

#1 what gears do you have???

#2 what are you expecting from a tuner??? (you have a gas engine not a diesel)

#3 the gryphon is the most preached tuner on this forum at the current time, the gryphon, sct live wire, sct xcal3 and diablo are the most common ones you will encounter when it comes to custom tunes

#4 custom tunes are the only way to go

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[tarajerame]

I got your e-mail


which engine do you have?

what gears do you have with the larger tires?

[DigitalMarket]

Keep in mind that the Gryphon does not really support full custom tuning, it only handles a very limited number of parameters verses SCT and Diablo products. Consider it semi-custom, not fully custom.

[2004Lariat5.4]

define this simi-custom that your talkin about???? ive never heard of this? ive always been under the impression the gryphon could do the same thing a sct livewire could.

[DigitalMarket]

The Gryphon does not load the entire PCM image into the PCM. That's why its so fast programming (a few seconds verses minutes). It loads a few tables only, the Livewire, XCal 2 and XCal 3 overwrite the entire ROM and can hit all the tables.

[KCFire]

I have the 5.4l Triton with 3:55 limited slip on a FX4 SCrew Pkg. I am running 35"x12.5" Tires. Thanks for all the responses but I am still not sure if I know what is the best bet. If I get a custom tune at a shop how much is it going to cost? Versus a Programmer what are the pro's and con's?

[tarajerame]

Originally Posted by KCFire

I have the 5.4l Triton with 3:55 limited slip on a FX4 SCrew Pkg. I am running 35"x12.5" Tires. Thanks for all the responses but I am still not sure if I know what is the best bet. If I get a custom tune at a shop how much is it going to cost? Versus a Programmer what are the pro's and con's?

wow, that's a lot of tire for 3.55's, you're truck must feel gutless


a custom tune is just that, you can get one emailed to you once you get a programmer that is compatable


personally I use an Xcal2 and an Xcal3 and I like them both but tunes are steep and plan on around $400-$500 depending on which tuning device you go with...


a custom tune will be one specificly for your ECM hex code, your trucks mods and it's intended uses VS a "canned" one that works will all of them

[MOford21]

New gears will make 5x the difference that custom tunes will. Get some 4.56 gears and you will be happy again. Your transmission will thank you as well.

Edit to clarify- I was just saying that you should regear to get a good foundation again, then if you got custom tunes after regearing it would REALLY wake your truck up. Custom tunes do make a big difference but 35s with your high gears are the real problem.

[Shanks12]

Im running the VMP tuned Xcal 2... love it, greater response, pwr and mpg's... I think you can get one from VMP's site for $400 with 3 custom tunes.. let me find link

XCal 3

[KCFire]

Thanks for all the input guys I appreciate it. I think you would be surprised how much power I still get with the 35's. I know I can get more with new gears but that is a little more expensive than a tune, especially with it being 4wd, because from my understanding you can't just do the rear?

[JackandJanet]

Originally Posted by KCFire

Thanks for all the input guys I appreciate it. I think you would be surprised how much power I still get with the 35's. I know I can get more with new gears but that is a little more expensive than a tune, especially with it being 4wd, because from my understanding you can't just do the rear?

Correct! You have to MATCH the front and the rear, otherwise, you have the tires spinning at different speeds at each end. Not exactly what you want for good traction (or good for the drivetrain either).

Of course this is not a problem until you drop it into 4WD.

- Jack

[ASEMechanic]

Originally Posted by DigitalMarket

Keep in mind that the Gryphon does not really support full custom tuning, it only handles a very limited number of parameters verses SCT and Diablo products. Consider it semi-custom, not fully custom.

The Gryphon supports full custom tuning just like SCT or Diablo. We have full access to the strategies and can build downloadable, custom tuned files for everything from mild modifications to supercharger applications.

Also, the Grypon changes the entire calibration (maps, functions, parameters) section of the PCM. Just because we do it faster than anyone else is not an indication limited function.

DigitalMarket, I don't know where you get you information from, but you might want to research a little bit better before you post.

Take care.

[ONELOWF]

^^^^ I assumed the Gryphon had these capabilities. Does the Gryphon have datalogging software like SCT's Live Link?