online store, message boards, mailing list, pictures, technical information, product directory ford truck information, svt lightning information, f150 information, f-150 information, f250 information
Home Discussion Forums Photo Gallery Product Directory Technical Articles Recalls & TSB's Product Reviews Classifieds Ford & Industry News Event Calendar Advertise with us
F150online Forums



Look for a USED Ford F150
Carsdirect.com

Go Back   F150online Forums > Powertrain & Mechanical > Chips, Tuners & Programming

Chips, Tuners & Programming SPONSORED BY:

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 07-02-2009, 03:19 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Covina, CA
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F-150
Posts: 185
Hell yeah punisher steppin it up!

If I run level 3 on 91 octane would I leave the timing alone for maximum performance?

Register today or sign-in to remove these ads!

__________________
2005 4.6L flareside supercab 2wd 3.73 LSD
Goodyear 275/55R20, ROUSH 20", Eibach 2/3 drop, Gryphon (Performance Tune), ROUSH O/R, Gotts with K&N, Silencer delete, FF Dynamics 6000cfm e-fans, 55w fogs, ROUSH grill, Alpine all around w/ Kicker SoloBaric, Garmin nav

In the works: FRPP 4.30, Auburn Pro Series, Summit u/d, Gatorback, GF 2" shackles
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-02-2009, 10:40 AM
Global Moderator &
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Burleson/Fort Worth, TX
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 11,495
Quote:
Originally Posted by DOD 4.6 View Post
Hell yeah punisher steppin it up!

If I run level 3 on 91 octane would I leave the timing alone for maximum performance?
You leave it alone for safety. Level 3 is written for 91. If you use 93, you bump it up +1.0.
__________________
Jim

Flowmaster 40, K&N dropin, Tint, Roush wheels, 305/50/20s
Edge Evo with PHP custom tunes, GF 2" shackles
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-02-2009, 11:50 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Tea, SD
Vehicle: 2006 Ford F150
Posts: 395
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertcb View Post
Since you obviously appear to have had your edge for a while I was interested in your opinion as to whether or not it actually helped or not. I will also be going to the Branson area next week from El Paso. My load will be a little heavier than yours but not much. All total including the Harley the gross vehicle weight will be approx 12,500 lbs. Just unde rthe Ford rated capacity of 13K. Did you realize any noticeable performance in MPG,power etc? I am contemplating buying the edge evolution for some tuning enhancements when I am towing. I appreciate opinions but facts are better.
The lower rpm torque gains and the better shift strategies of the edge canned tow tune will help.
Unfortunately you may or may not see milage gains with a load that size and if you do they may be minimal over stock tunned towing. All depends on how you drive.

Last edited by 88racing; 07-02-2009 at 11:56 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-03-2009, 11:58 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kimberley BC
Vehicle: 2004 ford f150
Posts: 260
I'm looking at an edge and I run 90 octane. Could I run a 91 octance and be safe?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-03-2009, 11:59 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kimberley BC
Vehicle: 2004 ford f150
Posts: 260
a 91 octane tune I mean
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Olive Branch, MS
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 604
We made the trip up to Branson and back and the Edge was a big help. There was definately a noticable difference in torque at the low RPM's. What little bit of passing I did the truck seemed to have more umph! My dad was towing his trailer which is shorter and lighter than mine with a 2007 F150 4x4 Screw. Essentially the same as mine but he doesn't have the Edge. Going up the steep grades in the Ozarks I was pulling away on him. I didn't notice any big mileage improvement, maybe a half gallon, but I did not see a drop either. I have put on larger wheels and tires since making the trip last year. So it may have helped my mileage from dropping with the larger set up I have now? It was also handy to be able to watch the transmission temps and other stuff i wanted to keep an eye on.
__________________
2005 XLT 5.4 Screw 4x4
Line-X, 2.5 AS and Superlift AAL, 305/50/20 Cooper Zeon LTZ's, 18" Magnaflow SI/SO, HD Grille, HD tails, A.R.E. tonneau, Edge upgraded with PHP custom tunes, K&N drop in, 35% tint, Kenwood KAC-6202, Kenwood KAC-8410D, Infinity Reference 6912cf, Alpine SPS-570A, RF Punch stage 1 8" in line-x box, Infinty perfect 10 DVC in Qlogic box
.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-07-2009, 11:53 AM
Global Moderator &
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Burleson/Fort Worth, TX
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 11,495
Quote:
Originally Posted by ab46501 View Post
We made the trip up to Branson and back and the Edge was a big help. There was definately a noticable difference in torque at the low RPM's. What little bit of passing I did the truck seemed to have more umph! My dad was towing his trailer which is shorter and lighter than mine with a 2007 F150 4x4 Screw. Essentially the same as mine but he doesn't have the Edge. Going up the steep grades in the Ozarks I was pulling away on him. I didn't notice any big mileage improvement, maybe a half gallon, but I did not see a drop either. I have put on larger wheels and tires since making the trip last year. So it may have helped my mileage from dropping with the larger set up I have now? It was also handy to be able to watch the transmission temps and other stuff i wanted to keep an eye on.
Sounds as if it helped. Yes, bigger tires and wheels really eat into the mpg, so it may have helped more than you realize. I really keep an eye on my temps, could not do without my display.
__________________
Jim

Flowmaster 40, K&N dropin, Tint, Roush wheels, 305/50/20s
Edge Evo with PHP custom tunes, GF 2" shackles
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-21-2009, 07:19 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: West texas
Vehicle: 2000 Ford F150
Posts: 12
Currious to know what were your transmission temps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ab46501 View Post
We made the trip up to Branson and back and the Edge was a big help. There was definately a noticable difference in torque at the low RPM's. What little bit of passing I did the truck seemed to have more umph! My dad was towing his trailer which is shorter and lighter than mine with a 2007 F150 4x4 Screw. Essentially the same as mine but he doesn't have the Edge. Going up the steep grades in the Ozarks I was pulling away on him. I didn't notice any big mileage improvement, maybe a half gallon, but I did not see a drop either. I have put on larger wheels and tires since making the trip last year. So it may have helped my mileage from dropping with the larger set up I have now? It was also handy to be able to watch the transmission temps and other stuff i wanted to keep an eye on.
I just made a run through the Ozarks and was also monitoring the temps on the tranny with my Scan Guage. Temperature of the fluid in the hills ran as high as 212. (I have a Factory tow package) On flat towing temps were around 200. Do you recall what your tranny temps were?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-21-2009, 07:29 PM
Global Moderator &
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Among javelinas and scorpions near Tucson, AZ
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 3,037
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2004f1505.4x4 View Post
I'm looking at an edge and I run 90 octane. Could I run a 91 octance and be safe?
It depends on a couple of things.

First, is your gas graded by the (R + M)/2 method? If so, the answer is "yes", but you might want to retard your timing by -0.5 degrees. However, what's your altitude up there? IF you are somewhat above 3500 feet (or a bit more than 1000 meters), you can probably leave the timing alone. Gas octane is reduced for fuel sold at higher altitudes because the altitude improves the anti-knock properties (while robbing you of power).

But, if your gas is graded using the RON (Research Octane Number) method only, DO NOT use a 91 octane tune. You are filling with gas that is only slightly higher in octane than our 87 octane. Use an 87 octane tune.

- Jack
__________________

2005 KR 4x4 SCrew 5.4, "Gott's" style CAI, PHP Gryphon Tuned
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-22-2009, 11:14 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Olive Branch, MS
Vehicle: 2005 Ford F150
Posts: 604
Quote:
Originally Posted by desertcb View Post
I just made a run through the Ozarks and was also monitoring the temps on the tranny with my Scan Guage. Temperature of the fluid in the hills ran as high as 212. (I have a Factory tow package) On flat towing temps were around 200. Do you recall what your tranny temps were?
I have the factory tow package also. On flats or if I was not climbing large hills the tranny temps stayed around 188. On a couple of the large and long climbs near Branson it peaked out at 202. I wasn't pulling quite as much weight as you though.
__________________
2005 XLT 5.4 Screw 4x4
Line-X, 2.5 AS and Superlift AAL, 305/50/20 Cooper Zeon LTZ's, 18" Magnaflow SI/SO, HD Grille, HD tails, A.R.E. tonneau, Edge upgraded with PHP custom tunes, K&N drop in, 35% tint, Kenwood KAC-6202, Kenwood KAC-8410D, Infinity Reference 6912cf, Alpine SPS-570A, RF Punch stage 1 8" in line-x box, Infinty perfect 10 DVC in Qlogic box
.
Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
 
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company
Contact Us Advertising Terms of Use Privacy Statement Jobs Forum Text Archives