Griot's or Meg's G110V2??
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Don't forget, if the finish is too bad, you might want to research the Megs DA MicroFiber kit before investing in more pads and different polish.
The kit was developed to be run on the G110V2 system ( or PC or GG ).
I read a lot of good things about it, when used on those DAs ( not so much on the Flex ). This is an opinion formed from reading only, not actual use. I have not put it to paint yet. I did try the Optimum MF pads in Cut and Polish and with the right product, the will make quick work of defects with a Flex.
One thing I did make note of, the wax in that is in the Megs MF kit is more like a glaze, you still should put a LSP over it when done. This is just what some have reported on different forums.
The kit was developed to be run on the G110V2 system ( or PC or GG ).
I read a lot of good things about it, when used on those DAs ( not so much on the Flex ). This is an opinion formed from reading only, not actual use. I have not put it to paint yet. I did try the Optimum MF pads in Cut and Polish and with the right product, the will make quick work of defects with a Flex.
One thing I did make note of, the wax in that is in the Megs MF kit is more like a glaze, you still should put a LSP over it when done. This is just what some have reported on different forums.
Megs M105 and M205 are both sold at a couple of auto parts stores where I am.
M105 is more aggressive that Ultimate Compound and a bit more difficult to use.
I suggest, when using M105, to use a spray bottle with water to keep it moist.
The Megs MF kit works (I'd suggest the 5" kit) it includes the 5" backing plate.
Ultimate Compound needs to be followed with Ultimate Polish (like M105/M205)
As far a LSP's that depends on the color and finish (metallic etc.) of your paint.
What are your paint colors/finishes?
If you choose the Megs MF kit you will need to "clean" the disc between panels.
Do you have an air compressor?
M105 is more aggressive that Ultimate Compound and a bit more difficult to use.
I suggest, when using M105, to use a spray bottle with water to keep it moist.
The Megs MF kit works (I'd suggest the 5" kit) it includes the 5" backing plate.
Ultimate Compound needs to be followed with Ultimate Polish (like M105/M205)
As far a LSP's that depends on the color and finish (metallic etc.) of your paint.
What are your paint colors/finishes?
If you choose the Megs MF kit you will need to "clean" the disc between panels.
Do you have an air compressor?
#32
02-28-2012, 08:19 AM
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There is the M105/M205 combo or the consumer version UC/Ultimate Polish.
Yes, you need two...One for removal and one to brighten the matte finish.
For "just plain white" I like Collinite 845 (avail at some auto parts stores)
For "tuxedo black metallic" I like Blackfire Wet Diamond (slick and shiny)
Now for a product to do both...I might suggest Zaino Z-2 AND ZFX
Yes, you can ONLY purchase Zaino products on-line...but it's worth it.
LSP = Last Step Product (Wax or sealant)
Here is a link to Detailing Acronyms
LSP's are subjective. There are waxes and sealants and the look is different.
In most cases, sealants are polymers, last 3-4 months and have a shiny look.
Again, in most cases, waxes are carnauba last 3-4 weeks and have a warm look.
Now to really confuse you, there is no naming convention for detailing products.
Some products labeled "wax" are actually a sealant.
Some products labeled "polish" are actually a sealant.
Some products labeled "polish" are actually a compound.
I hope this makes it clear as mud.
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Good choice...If you have swirls and scratches...UC "may" not be enough.
There is the M105/M205 combo or the consumer version UC/Ultimate Polish.
Yes, you need two...One for removal and one to brighten the matte finish.
WOW, one at each end of the spectrum.
For "just plain white" I like Collinite 845 (avail at some auto parts stores)
For "tuxedo black metallic" I like Blackfire Wet Diamond (slick and shiny)
Now for a product to do both...I might suggest Zaino Z-2 AND ZFX
Yes, you can ONLY purchase Zaino products on-line...but it's worth it.
LSP = Last Step Product (Wax or sealant)
Here is a link to Detailing Acronyms
LSP's are subjective. There are waxes and sealants and the look is different.
In most cases, sealants are polymers, last 3-4 months and have a shiny look.
Again, in most cases, waxes are carnauba last 3-4 weeks and have a warm look.
Now to really confuse you, there is no naming convention for detailing products.
Some products labeled "wax" are actually a sealant.
Some products labeled "polish" are actually a sealant.
Some products labeled "polish" are actually a compound.
I hope this makes it clear as mud.
There is the M105/M205 combo or the consumer version UC/Ultimate Polish.
Yes, you need two...One for removal and one to brighten the matte finish.
WOW, one at each end of the spectrum.
For "just plain white" I like Collinite 845 (avail at some auto parts stores)
For "tuxedo black metallic" I like Blackfire Wet Diamond (slick and shiny)
Now for a product to do both...I might suggest Zaino Z-2 AND ZFX
Yes, you can ONLY purchase Zaino products on-line...but it's worth it.
LSP = Last Step Product (Wax or sealant)
Here is a link to Detailing Acronyms
LSP's are subjective. There are waxes and sealants and the look is different.
In most cases, sealants are polymers, last 3-4 months and have a shiny look.
Again, in most cases, waxes are carnauba last 3-4 weeks and have a warm look.
Now to really confuse you, there is no naming convention for detailing products.
Some products labeled "wax" are actually a sealant.
Some products labeled "polish" are actually a sealant.
Some products labeled "polish" are actually a compound.
I hope this makes it clear as mud.
#34
02-28-2012, 10:25 AM
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Polish with med then fine polish (compound) M105/M205, UC/UP etc.
Clean paint with IPA spray and MF towel (Isopropyl alcohol - diluted 3:1)
Apply LSP of choice. Wax can be applied on top of sealant (beading, look etc.)
If this is the first time this is done then I may suggest washing with Dawn (blue).
This will insure the surface is clean and free of any "left over" LSP products.
Basics:
Washing...
Use the 2 bucket method.
Sheet water and dry.
Clay...
Use clay bar on paint after washing.
Use baggie method to check paint
Polish...
Use Kevin Brown Method with a DA
Correction-Remove defects (M105, UC etc.)
Finishing polish to bring gloss (M205, UP etc.)
LSP
Apply protection
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02-28-2012, 11:18 AM
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After the paint is polished it is no longer protected and needs LSP.
Polish with med then fine polish (compound) M105/M205, UC/UP etc.
Clean paint with IPA spray and MF towel (Isopropyl alcohol - diluted 3:1)
Apply LSP of choice. Wax can be applied on top of sealant (beading, look etc.)
If this is the first time this is done then I may suggest washing with Dawn (blue).
This will insure the surface is clean and free of any "left over" LSP products.
Basics:
Washing...
Use the 2 bucket method.
Sheet water and dry.
Clay...
Use clay bar on paint after washing.
Use baggie method to check paint
Polish...
Use Kevin Brown Method with a DA
Correction-Remove defects (M105, UC etc.)
Finishing polish to bring gloss (M205, UP etc.)
LSP
Apply protection
Polish with med then fine polish (compound) M105/M205, UC/UP etc.
Clean paint with IPA spray and MF towel (Isopropyl alcohol - diluted 3:1)
Apply LSP of choice. Wax can be applied on top of sealant (beading, look etc.)
If this is the first time this is done then I may suggest washing with Dawn (blue).
This will insure the surface is clean and free of any "left over" LSP products.
Basics:
Washing...
Use the 2 bucket method.
Sheet water and dry.
Clay...
Use clay bar on paint after washing.
Use baggie method to check paint
Polish...
Use Kevin Brown Method with a DA
Correction-Remove defects (M105, UC etc.)
Finishing polish to bring gloss (M205, UP etc.)
LSP
Apply protection
Sorry for the questions. I am new at this and new at using an DA.
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02-28-2012, 11:54 AM
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#37
02-28-2012, 12:18 PM
If you choose the Megs MF kit you will need to "clean" the disc between panels.
Do you have an air compressor?
Do you have an air compressor?
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02-28-2012, 12:25 PM
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Ok so compound, polish, then sealant/wax, got it. I thought the compound was same as polish. It makes sense that polish would brighten up what the compound did. How do you like the NXT sealant?
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Yes, that is usually the case. If you don't like the look of the sealant, you can always go over the top of the sealant with a good carnauba wax.
If you have problems, or need some help .. give me a shout .. you are welcome to come by the shop when I am there some evening or weekend.
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Yes, that is usually the case. If you don't like the look of the sealant, you can always go over the top of the sealant with a good carnauba wax.
If you have problems, or need some help .. give me a shout .. you are welcome to come by the shop when I am there some evening or weekend.
If you have problems, or need some help .. give me a shout .. you are welcome to come by the shop when I am there some evening or weekend.
#41
02-28-2012, 12:42 PM
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Think of it like this...
Correction, followed by finishing, followed by LSP
Aggressive order (most to least)
Correction:
M105
Ultimate Compound
Finish:
M205
Ultimate Polish
Jeweling:
Menz PO85RD
TIP:
If you use M105 take a small travel bottle and put baby oil in it
Lightly mist the LC orange pad with baby oil before applying M105
#42
02-28-2012, 12:45 PM
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Sounds good. My wife's car won't need compound in every spot of the car. I'll just have to remember to follow up on it with some polish and not go straight into wax or sealant. My truck has only 14K miles and the paint is still great. Easy step process with the truck, not so much with the wife's car. Thanks for the advice!
Put your hand in a baggie and feel the clean paint. Do you feel grit? if so, clay before polishing.
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