Anyone else watching this show on Discovery, Smash Lab? They're gonna blow up two trucks, one with Rhino, one without. Guess it'll show if Rhino is actually better than everyone seems to claim it is. I know alot of people swear by Line-X, but this should be good...
Well I'm impressed...5 pounds of explosives under the bed, and the bed basically bent, but the Rhino was still there, not cracked or anything...
For those of you with Rhino, have you had issues? I've seen a few posts of people saying it sucks, it cracks, it chips, it peels, but do you actually have Rhino or are you just saying it sucks for brand loyalty to Line-X? I'm thinking any issues are from the application process, who's doing it, etc. Cause after seeing the truck blown to pieces and the Rhino still being there in good condition, woweewah
It was a paid appearance. It actually proves one thing, that Rhino flexes - which it should. Ever try to make something flexible "explode"? Very difficult, where rigid things (metal, concrete) shatter. Think of it like blowing up a ballon - it stretches.
Paid appearance or not, it shows me that it seems to be a decent product, and it does what it should, as you said, flex. If it can withstand the shock of 5 pounds of explosives going off under it, it should hold up to a truck bed bouncing on rough roads, getting things thrown in it, etc. etc...
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That show was bought and paid for by Rhino. My specialty in the Army was explosives and I made several observations. 1. The truck without the liner had the explosive charge centered under the bed on top of axle which would have directed the blast up removing the bed as it did. The truck with the liner appeared to have the charge forward of the bed directing most of the blast energy into the cab. The end result made this quite obvious as the cab was completely gone off the truck with the liner and bed was intact which was complete opposite of the truck without the liner. 2. The before picture of the liner looked gloppy and saggy on the bed leading me to believe it was a lot thicker than a real world application. 3. The trucks didn't appear to be the same model which could have some effect on the result.
Rhino is good stuff but this show really proved nothing because there are just too many variables to call it scientific. If you accept it for what it is though which is entertainment, then they accomplished their goal. Everybody likes to watch stuff get blown up!
The advantage to spraying a concrete wall is it eliminates shrapnel. If you contain the pieces, the blast itself doesn't kill nearly as many people.
The liner was applied to the walls 1/2" plus thick Would cost a fortune to do a whole building inside and out like they did on the show. There are already methods out that prevent shrapnell that are more cost effective. Again, entertainment value only.
That show was bought and paid for by Rhino. My specialty in the Army was explosives and I made several observations. 1. The truck without the liner had the explosive charge centered under the bed on top of axle which would have directed the blast up removing the bed as it did. The truck with the liner appeared to have the charge forward of the bed directing most of the blast energy into the cab. The end result made this quite obvious as the cab was completely gone off the truck with the liner and bed was intact which was complete opposite of the truck without the liner. 2. The before picture of the liner looked gloppy and saggy on the bed leading me to believe it was a lot thicker than a real world application. 3. The trucks didn't appear to be the same model which could have some effect on the result.
Rhino is good stuff but this show really proved nothing because there are just too many variables to call it scientific. If you accept it for what it is though which is entertainment, then they accomplished their goal. Everybody likes to watch stuff get blown up!
The one with the Rhino was a 4x4 the one without was a 2 wheel drive= More space between the axle and bed. They had to have had the charge in a different location as the Rhino liner wouldnt help hold the bed to the frame. Then they had a rep from rhino liner help them out...Wow what a coincidence!!!..I had to shut that show off before they ended that segment, they acted surprised of the result they staged...
If they were doing a true experiment they would not be brand specific.They should have used different brands as well.
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That show was bought and paid for by Rhino. My specialty in the Army was explosives and I made several observations...
Cool, what was your unit? I'm a 21B myself. Trained at the Wood.
As far as the location or whether it was 4x4 or not...come on everyone. 5 pounds of explosive. I don't care if you put it right under the bed on one, or 10 feet away from the truck on another test. 5 pounds will do lots of damage regardless of if it was "on top of the axle" or "a little further forward".
I'm by no means trying to defend Rhino, but on the other hand, I'm not trying to shoot them down. Just trying to get feedback on both Line-X and Rhino, yet for some reason everyone seems to dump on Rhino. You'd swear this board was made up of Line-X reps!!!
I personally dont care between the rhino or linex and really doubt there is that much of a difference. I was just saying they blew up two different trucks, two different ways. It was very obvious that the charge was set up different on the second truck. If the liner held in the blast it would have flown farther than the bed that was destroyed, its physics, not quality. The silly one said " look at how it directed the blast toward the cab." This would imply that the Rhino liner made the bed bolts stronger as containing the blast under a stronger bed would put more stress on the bed bolts. But the bed stayed on??? It was obviously staged and I imediatly lost interest in the show as it became a advertisement.
There are a lot of people on this site , that have spent a lot of money on products and gimmicks. That is what makes it so great, if a product is junk you can bet your @$$ you will know before you shell out all those Dollars.
I am no explosives expert but I did stay at a holiday inn after my wife caught me with that hooker.
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I am no explosives expert but I did stay at a holiday inn after my wife caught me with that hooker.
Hehehehehe, nice You did make a great point I didn't even think of, that if the Rhino held the bed together better, regardless of position of the charge, it would send the whole bed skyward like a rocket as a single piece, as opposed to being blown to bits like the first.
Cool, what was your unit? I'm a 21B myself. Trained at the Wood.
As far as the location or whether it was 4x4 or not...come on everyone. 5 pounds of explosive. I don't care if you put it right under the bed on one, or 10 feet away from the truck on another test. 5 pounds will do lots of damage regardless of if it was "on top of the axle" or "a little further forward".
You would be amazed at what a small variable will do to explosives. For instance, laying a charge on flat concrete will do nothing more than make noise. Set the same charge with a sand bag on top and it fracture the concrete slab to pieces. Nobody is saying that Rhino isn't a good product, the point is the show tried to make it look like a science experiment when it was clearly a staged infomercial which was somewhat entertaining but had no scientific value.
BTW: I also trained at Fort Lostinthewoods back in '87. I spent some time in Kuwait at the end of Desert Storm mostly blowing up downed equipment so the bad guys couldn't salvage it.
Do y'all not believe that the bed without the liner in it had some other modifications like all the seems ground down to promote coming apart easier, bedbolts removed (yeah it would be really hard to take them out cut the head off and glue it back down over the hole) etc.
Hay Bryndon when are y'all gonna do this show and put the explosives on top of the liner and show how well the DualLiner protects when there is little damage to it. I am going off of ihctractor's statement that explosives laying out open do little more than make noise. You can put it in the unprotected and sprayed beds first with a sandbag on it the do the DualLiner exposed so everyone can see you are actually using the explosives and noone would know the difference.
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Would cost a fortune to do a whole building inside and out like they did on the show. There are already methods out that prevent shrapnell that are more cost effective. Again, entertainment value only.
You did make a great point I didn't even think of, that if the Rhino held the bed together better, regardless of position of the charge, it would send the whole bed skyward like a rocket as a single piece, as opposed to being blown to bits like the first.
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