Be available on December 15th

http://www.bullydog.com/ecoboost_tuning.php

 

I wonder how the torque is down low? The graph starts around 3250 rpm.

 

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I want one. Im curious to if they cracked the code and actually tune the ecu or if they are black boxing it?

I like the idea of black boxing the ecu so that you dont have to void your warenty.

 

They also might be dumping the pcm and saving it and installing their own.....

 

It looks like it's just an update for their standard tuner, which means it will show you altered the PCM, can't get away with that. I wouldn't be surprised if the eggheads at Ford set it to flag something in the system even if a blackbox was connected. (I'm still buying one!)

 

What about a gear ratio swap. Lets say you go from 3.31 or 3.55 and put some oem 4.10 gears in there. The dealer can reflash for the 4.10's but im wondering if loading the tune reflashes the TCU to your original vin# gears

 

subd!! can't wait to see one of these in action!!!

 

Im not sure on 09 or newer but when i went from 355 to 410 in my 08 5.4 f150 the dealer couldnt reflash computer because of something to do with epa about fuel milage. So i had to run tune to fix.

 

did most of the other postings disappear?

 

Install one of these & kiss your factory warranty Bye-Bye! The Ecoboost is already stressed enough.

 

^ pure speculation.

and that warranty thing has been around since OBD-II got started....old news

 

And you know this because you personally have torn down an ecoboost motor or have seen the tuning perimeters? Do you even know what turbo or size injectors are in the ecoboost? Compression ratio? Piston design? Technically a warranty can be voided by putting bigger tires on a truck if the tranny fails and they want to be dics they can void. I didnt recall seeing anything about warranties in the thread title

 

When the 6.0L crowd got into tuning, Ford has been putting tracking software in the ECUs to trace tuning or chip devices. IF something fails and they can prove the tuner or chip did it, then yes your warranty is gone.

Now since we're talking about turbo'ed engines, of course Ford has de-tuned the Turbos to prolong life. You can easily tune them up (see the +40rwhp gain above) but now you're pushing its 150,000-mile life into 75,000-100,000-miles. There is no speculation. Go to the black smoke and diesel forums and you'll see more "rejected warranty due to programmer" threads than "V6 with P0174 codes" threads on here.

 

How do you figure they are cutting engine life nearly in HALF when they aren't even increasing the boost? You guys seriously need to do some turbo research. I've been building 1000+ hp turbo cars for years and tuning a car or truck that is turbocharged, does not reduce the longevity of a motor by nearly half. It just doesn't. As long as it is done correctly that is.

Two old clients of mine were both at SEMA and talked to Bullydog while they were there. I was on the phone with them telling them what questions I had and one of them was boost level. The rep(s) there quickly answered "13psi, no increase in boost at all." If you read their TruckTrend article about the SEMA truck they built, they also indicate a 13psi level in there as well. FastLane Turbo in Houston also tuned their truck with midpipe to the tune of a 90rwhp increase and also did it at 14psi, very little increase.

Those of us that have seen the boost levels on these trucks through the gears can see VERY quickly how much can be picked up in the midrange from just keeping that boost level consistent instead of fluctuating constantly. Just me personally, but I'd rather have turbos that are consistently making the same boost and not constantly being adjusted and changed.

Nothing against anyone here, but some of the claims being made in this thread are a little far fetched at best. No one here knows anywhere near enough about these motors to make the kinds of claims you are making. Time will tell and hopefully it tells good