97 F150 5.4L error code P0171
#1
97 F150 5.4L error code P0171
This past weekend my MIL came on. I plugged in my OBDII and got a P0171 malfunction code. System Lean Bank 1.
Truck:
97 F150 SC 4x4 OR
Gibson catback dual exhaust
K&N filter
88,000 miles
My first thought was the MAF is dirty but wouldnt both banks registered this error code?
What side is Bank 1, Driver?
Could this be an O2s? Isnt that a seperate error code?
Possibly a leaking intake manifold gasket?
Ive checked for vacuum leaks and havent found anything.
The code hasnt returned since I cleared it.
Thanks for any ideas.
Ron Hanson
http://www.flippebit.net
Truck:
97 F150 SC 4x4 OR
Gibson catback dual exhaust
K&N filter
88,000 miles
My first thought was the MAF is dirty but wouldnt both banks registered this error code?
What side is Bank 1, Driver?
Could this be an O2s? Isnt that a seperate error code?
Possibly a leaking intake manifold gasket?
Ive checked for vacuum leaks and havent found anything.
The code hasnt returned since I cleared it.
Thanks for any ideas.
Ron Hanson
http://www.flippebit.net
Last edited by Ron Hanson; 11-07-2001 at 03:06 PM.
#2
p0171 Lean means insufficient fuel. Fuel codes are 0170-0175. If it were an O2 censor, you would get a code between the range of 0130-0161. Too lean can normally be corrected by restoring adequate fuel pressure. Since your truck is running, you can rule out a fuel pump failure and changing the fuel filter will more than likely solve the problem.
#3
If that code is fuel pressure related, could it be the code thrown when the gas cap isn't tightened well. Before I spent lots of money replacing stuff, I'd try retightening the gas cap, reset the computer and see if it throws it again. Well, I guess you might as well change the fuel filter with that many miles...
#4
#5
to: Ron Hansen, Clearing the code by disconnecting the battery will most likely only be a short term answer if you do have a bug.
Two Trip Logic will show you a check engine lite if the problem reoccurs. What this means is driving the truck 2 or more times with a minimal drivng time of 20 minutes should be what it takes to reset the check-engine lite. Keep us infomed.
Two Trip Logic will show you a check engine lite if the problem reoccurs. What this means is driving the truck 2 or more times with a minimal drivng time of 20 minutes should be what it takes to reset the check-engine lite. Keep us infomed.
#6
Thanks everybody. I cleared the code with my Actron 9615. I also disconnected the battery so it could relearn it fuel trims. Unfortunately the light came on when my wife was driving so I dont know what she was doing so I could recreate.
Im still curious what side is bank 1.
This could be so many things Id like to narrow it down. I guess I'll look over everything this weekend and check for air leaks in the intake system and wait for it to come on again.
Throttle:
If it was a fuel pressure problem wouldnt it had leaned both banks and set an P0191 for fuel rail pressure?
My understanding of P0171 was the computer needed to compensate with an overly rich fuel trim to compensate for a overly lean condition on one 'bank'.
Im still curious what side is bank 1.
This could be so many things Id like to narrow it down. I guess I'll look over everything this weekend and check for air leaks in the intake system and wait for it to come on again.
Throttle:
If it was a fuel pressure problem wouldnt it had leaned both banks and set an P0191 for fuel rail pressure?
My understanding of P0171 was the computer needed to compensate with an overly rich fuel trim to compensate for a overly lean condition on one 'bank'.
#7
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#8
update
I recreated the error code. Passing at 69mph. According to the data freeze fuel trims look normal for the load:
Calc load: 58.4%
LT FL TRM 1: 22.7%
LT FL TRM 2: 21.1%
ST FL TRM 1: -4.7%
ST FL TRM 2:-1.6%
I checked the realtime data right after this happened and noticed
the O2 sensor #1 BNK 1 was reading 0volts intermittently. I dont think that is normal. Shortly after it started reading correctly.
I think my o2 sensor is going but not enough to trip the trouble code.
Now I just need to know what side is bank 1.
Calc load: 58.4%
LT FL TRM 1: 22.7%
LT FL TRM 2: 21.1%
ST FL TRM 1: -4.7%
ST FL TRM 2:-1.6%
I checked the realtime data right after this happened and noticed
the O2 sensor #1 BNK 1 was reading 0volts intermittently. I dont think that is normal. Shortly after it started reading correctly.
I think my o2 sensor is going but not enough to trip the trouble code.
Now I just need to know what side is bank 1.
#11
p0171 Lean means insufficient fuel. Fuel codes are 0170-0175. If it were an O2 censor, you would get a code between the range of 0130-0161. Too lean can normally be corrected by restoring adequate fuel pressure. Since your truck is running, you can rule out a fuel pump failure and changing the fuel filter will more than likely solve the problem.
#12
yes if the rest of the fuel system is operating correctly and the fuel pump were the culprit you'd get poth the p0171 and p0174 because the fuel does go to both sides of the engine. My thoughts on this are either a clogged injector that is so miniscule that it doesn't cause the engine to have a noticeable misfire under general operating conditions, a leaking intake manifold gasket on bank 1 side or a vacuum. isse. It could also be the up stream O2 sensor and the codes for that could be either p0171 or p0420..