http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/821...n-acceleration

Hear that? It's the sound of a clock ticking. Toyota's 15 minutes of fame is down to :59 seconds. - Og

 

Let the corporate/gov't cover up games begin.

 

It'll hurt them, but nowhere near as bad as the exploding tire fiasco hurt Ford.

 

We'll see. If it's anything like the rusty frame issue, Toyota will issue a recall, be praised by the media, then the problem will come back 5 years from now in another Toyota.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479

This is the story I saw last night on ABC. - Og

 

funny because they already had a recall on the older cars 05-07 avalon and i think a few others, and then here we are again with a bigger recall.


Its not fault with the floor mats tho, they said it in their advertising "moving forward" never said that the owners will be able to stop the car

 

I truly believe this is only the beginning of the failures of the drive by wire technology. While it is suppose to default to idle, it doesn't mean it's going to work every time. There are too many sensors that can fail to a full throttle position. The DPS officer in California that died when his Sequoia when into full throttle couldn't even turn the thing off. Toyota is going to pay dearly for that one. But all of the auto makers are using this drive by wire crap and it's an accident waiting to happen. Same for electric steering that we are now starting to see. Any electrical gremlins and yer toast.

 

Now, that's funny right there. - Og

 

yeah i have to agree, the drive by wire scares the hell out of me. as much as i love the look of the newer body trucks and cars, and comforts, the idea of a CABLE would make me overly happy.

So heres a thought, in the RC car world they use springs for when the batteries fail, pulls the servo to 0 or close so you have a chance of not nailing a wall head on full speed. then they have fail safes that bring servo's to 0. these auto makers need to find a way to incorporate this theory to save people. although i suppose the throttle servo is still getting a signal telling it GO when these cars have this sudden issue.

 

Too much responsibility is being taken away from the driver. The driver. - Og

 

True Og, less less responsibility. Sure, technology makes life easier as that is basically it's definition, however - each time you take driver control out of the the situation you create a dependence on mechanical parts. Most seem to work fine, but what about those electrical problems or sudden failures. People's lives are in the mercy of a moving machine. We see this crap all the time. A caliper seizes, radio stops working, window motor dies. While those things are less severe, it shows that failures do occur and can almost always be expected, but we don't know when and if it will actually happen. So what are people supposed to think now, "Man someday this throttle will malfunction... I hope I am not going to fast!" Just seems to me that this newer technology is not as dependable as it is sometimes made out to be. Like you guys say, more sensors, more moving parts = more room to failures and possible fatalities.

 

Wow, I wasn't even aware that a Prius could reach speeds of 90 MPH.

 

I knows it's kind of a panicky situation when it happens, but why not throw it in Neutral and turn the car off? That way your coasting, and the engine can just rev to it's crank's(heart's) content.....

Or will the car shock you and tell you to back off?

 

yea ive never cared for driveby wire, seems to me they should just have a program in the computer that if the gas and brake are applied together for more then 2-3 seconds it will disregard the gas input, and back the throttle off

 

Or everyone can go back to carbs....