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Originally Posted by momalle1

Subjective? No, wearing a T-Shirt that says "Country Music Sucks" is offensive, wearing one that says "Rock Rules" is not. One that says "Country Musicians Are Backwards, Alcoholic, Wife-Beating, Inbred, Ex-Prisoner Hicks" is just looking for trouble.

None of that is offensive to me. Let's just say if I was wearing a "Country Musicians Are Backwards, Alcoholic, Wife-Beating, Inbred, Ex-Prisoner Hicks"
you're more than welcome to address it with me... not saying that I would, but I certainly have a right to do so. Gona' try and stop me?
We have a right to freedom of speech... not a right to be free of offense. Save the "PC" crap for those that appreciate it.

I find Obama offensive... by your standard he now has to stop talking. Actually, most of the things he says "are just asking for trouble"... as you put it. By your standard that abridges his freedom of speech? There is no double standard.

I hope I made it clear, I have no problem with people bringing their kids to church, but by definition and reality, I am correct. Just because you and I, and most people, see it as a good thing, it is still shaping an impressionable mind. Making the Obama kids out to be some sort of brainwashing is ridiculous.

No you weren't clear. You are trying to use both sides of an argument.

No where did I say it legitimizes or demonizes it, let's just call apples, apples. T-Shirt boy is obviously too young to know or understand anything about politics as are the Obama singers. If the singers parents are wrong, then so is the t-shirt kid's parents.

Those Obama kids were put in a situation eerily reminiscent of the type of BRAINWASHING that N. Korea, China... and yes (I hate to reference it) Nazi Germany.
Just so happens your Obama kids are doing both (singing of Obama and wearing an Obama "blue" tee shirt)... so I guess it makes them twice as wrong?

Please, the Hitler youth programs were run by Hitler and forced on the population, the Obama singers were not attached to Obama's will in any way, there is no similarity.

Much like the sing along was run by adults (a teacher too!!!) and -forced- or coerced their children to go along with it.

I thought we were discussing parents influencing (or brainwashing) their children, and certainly James Dobson and Reverend Moon have been doing it for years through books and television.

you're using examples of openly radical individuals. The difference here is that Obama is supposed to be "main-stream" or "normal". We're not attributing the sining directly to Obama, but rather to the overzealous nature of his ardent supporters. It is in this context where the creepiness of that video comes in to play. There is a big difference between using the child as the main focus of the issue to that of using one to hold a sign at a rally.