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Originally Posted by S-76

Who is the authority on the subject? who gets to choose what is offensive and what is not? It’s all rather subjective, wouldn't you say?

Subjective? No, wearing a T-Shirt that says "Country Music Sucks" is offensive, wearing one that says "Rock Rules" is not. One that says "Country Musicians Are Backwards, Alcoholic, Wife-Beating, Inbred, Ex-Prisoner Hicks" is just looking for trouble.

Originally Posted by S-76

Yet… there is still a difference.
You have to choose one or the other... it's either right or it's wrong to bring your kids to church.
You'll call being brought up in a faith an "indoctrination" which by definition you'd be correct.
The context in which you are using the word, is where we differ.

These kids are getting a big dose of Alinsky / Obama

Religious kids get a big dose of God.
Do I really need to say which “ideology” I’d rather teach my kids?

I hope I made it clear, I have no problem with people bringing their kids to church, but by definition and reality, I am correct. Just because you and I, and most people, see it as a good thing, it is still shaping an impressionable mind. Making the Obama kids out to be some sort of brainwashing is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by S-76

Yes... some parents do questionable things with their children. You can now add Sing for Change to that list. Some how pointing out other abnormalities in society makes the Obama "thing" better or some how legitimizes it? It doesn’t.

No where did I say it legitimizes or demonizes it, let's just call apples, apples. T-Shirt boy is obviously too young to know or understand anything about politics as are the Obama singers. If the singers parents are wrong, then so is the t-shirt kid's parents.

Originally Posted by S-76

Since when did “large evangelical churches” become social pariahs? “Evangelical Church” is a large brush… care to be a little more specific? Just who is it common knowledge with? So in 1970 or there about… and since then… what have we been teaching our children…what?

We're getting a little myopic on this though. Let’s get back to the big picture… The Dems are trying to elect Obama... the fact of the matter is, this issue brings campaigning to an all time low. All the other videos drawing a parallel to other unsavory historical events and what these kids were made to do, are not that far off base.
This particular instance it is wrong, and it is from Liberal Democrats.
I still want to see an example where a "Right-Winger" used kids for nefarious purposes.

Please, the Hitler youth programs were run by Hitler and forced on the population, the Obama singers were not attached to Obama's will in any way, there is no similarity.

I thought we were discussing parents influencing (or brainwashing) their children, and certainly James Dobson and Reverend Moon have been doing it for years through books and television. If you want examples of conservatives using their children to promote their ideology, you don't need to look any farther than examples like Kyle Williams, 12 year old columnist for WorldNetDaily, or kids picketing for McCain, here are some conservatives stealing signs, and re-using them for their own purpose, along with their kids, and yes, even McCain supporters video their children in support of McCain, is that nefarious enough?