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3.73 Gears not an option anymore?

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Old 07-21-2015, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by glc
Drive it with the 3.31's, I think you will find the low gear in the 6 speed makes up for it.
I didn't notice it being that bad in doing test drives in trucks with 3.31's, also drove a couple with 3.55's and 1 4x4 with a 3.73, it had the most pickup off the line

Different story when towing, so I will see...
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:28 PM
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How heavy do you plan on towing?
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 12:32 PM
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I have an 8500 pound boat and a travel trailer that weighs close to that.
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fordmantpw
Ford does. These trucks aren't built by hand, they are built using a ton of automation. Every additional option or combination adds cost to not only the design of the truck, but also the assembly process. If it costs, say, $10 million to add an option and it only brings them an additional $8 million in profit, why should they LOST $2 million just to add an option that 172 people want?

These aren't hand-built $250k luxury cars here.
So, knowing a little bit about process automation, you program into the build sheet what options to put in the vehicle, and the robot does it, all that's needed is editing the build script, or whatever it's called in their world. For most trucks, all the wiring, mounting brackets, etc are already there, it's literally which cog gets put in what hole, so what cog does the robot know to grab

More to the point, which gear ratio to put in a given truck, is literally which set of gears is grabbed by the robot... how hard is that? No special process involved
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by crazynip
So, knowing a little bit about process automation, you program into the build sheet what options to put in the vehicle, and the robot does it, all that's needed is editing the build script, or whatever it's called in their world. For most trucks, all the wiring, mounting brackets, etc are already there, it's literally which cog gets put in what hole, so what cog does the robot know to grab

More to the point, which gear ratio to put in a given truck, is literally which set of gears is grabbed by the robot... how hard is that? No special process involved
Well, if we are talking about different gears with different engines, don't forget about the additional cost of EPA testing.

Nothing is free. And you are over-simplifying with just editing the build script.
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:55 PM
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Well, if we are talking about different gears with different engines, don't forget about the additional cost of EPA testing.
So here's a dumb question. They offer it with the 3.5 Eco with the HD payload package...

Is the non-HD payload package that different? Only real world difference is vehicle weight. So using our powers of deduction, less vehicle weight = better mileage = lower emissions... I think you are really overthinking this

Nothing is free. And you are over-simplifying with just editing the build script.
I think you are wrong...
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 04:05 PM
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Your max tow rating with a 5.0 and 3.31's is 9100#. You might be over max payload and GVWR, but the 2015 has a considerably higher payload rating than past years.
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by crazynip
So here's a dumb question. They offer it with the 3.5 Eco with the HD payload package...

Is the non-HD payload package that different? Only real world difference is vehicle weight. So using our powers of deduction, less vehicle weight = better mileage = lower emissions... I think you are really overthinking this
Well, I'm sure there is a reason. Ford knows a lot more about this than either of us. I'm just trying to offer some insight.

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I think you are wrong...
I can live with that.
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
Your max tow rating with a 5.0 and 3.31's is 9100#. You might be over max payload and GVWR, but the 2015 has a considerably higher payload rating than past years.
Yes, the payload is higher than the previous models it replaces, but if you compare it to other past years, like that of your 2003, that is not the case.

2003 single cab, 6.5' bed, 4x2 with M5OD and 4.2L has a payload rating of 2060 lbs.

2015 single cab, 6.5' bed, 4x2 with 2.7L ecoboost has a payload rating of 1800 lbs.
2015 single cab, 6.5' bed, 4x2 with 3.5L Ti-VCT has a payload rating of 1910 lbs.
2015 single cab, 6.5' bed, 4x2 with 5.0L Ti-VCT has a payload rating of 1930 lbs.
 
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2015 crew cab 5.0 6.5 bed 4x4 payload rating is 2230#.
 
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:08 PM
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I know, all configurations have different payload ratings. The point I was trying to make, is that when you compare your 2003 to that of a 2015 of similar configuration, the payload is not significantly more for the 2015, but less.

I am not directing this towards you, so please don't take it that way, but I see/hear a lot of people stating that the 2015 has much more payload capacity than past years, when it isn't always the case.
 



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