Just got back from the dealer and was repeatedly told by salesman that it was impossible to get HD Payload OR Max Tow with the 5.0L. He went to check with "somebody" and came back confirming it was impossible to order the 5.0 with the HD Payload Pkg. I don't want to start another 5.0 vs Eco debate as I have reviewed those threads and still personally prefer the 5.0. My current 2010 XLT Supercrew 5.4 with Maxtow is very close on payload with the trailer I and gear I carry. Increased payload would be an incentive for upgrading to a 2015. From what I have been able to gather from info supplied by Ford, you can get an HD payload package with the 5.0 and that is what they advertise as best in class payload at 3300 lbs, which would approximately 1500 lbs payload more than what I have now. It appears that the Max Tow package may not be available for the 5.0 but the Tow Package is. Max Tow with the Eco is rated for 12,200lbs and the Tow Package for the 5.0 with HD Payload and Tow Package is rated for 11,200 lbs. Does anybody know what the difference between these two packages would be ? The descriptions of the Trailer Tow Package and Max Trailer Tow Package both include Class IV Hitch receiver, Trailer Connector, Auxiliary transmission oil cooler, Engine Oil Cooler, upgraded radiator and front stabilizer bar. The HD Payload package includes heavy duty shock absorbers, upgraded springs and radiator and 3.73 electronic locking rear axle.

 

Maybe you should be looking at a F-250 with a 6.2?

 

I have good news and bad news for you.

Good news: I have your answer.

Bad news: You might not like it.

Per the 2015 Order Guide:

The Max Tow option code is 53C. It requires option code 99G which is the 3.5EB.

The Heavy Duty Payload package is option code 627 (late availability). It requires towing package 53A with the 5.0 and 53C with the EB.

The trailer towing packages are as,

53B for towing up to 5,000 pounds
53A for towing over 5,000 pounds (in includes all of the equipment from 53B)
53C the highest towing package, it includes the upgraded bumper etc.

The place I found the guide won't let me copy/paste it here but you can search it if you want to see for yourself. So the dealership didn't lie to you about the towing packages but was wrong about the heavy duty payload package. You have to get the EB to get the highest tow package (53C) but the 5.0 can be equipped with the heavy payload package and towing package 53A.

 

Dealer initially told me no Tow or HD Payload packages with 5.0. but has since confirmed that it is possible to get the HD Payload package with a tow package for a tow capacity of 11,100 lbs and a payload capacity of 3,300 lbs with the 5.0 which would suit my purposes (F250 would be nice but unnecessary as I have no plans to go to a larger tow trailer), but Dealer can't be bothered to find out what the difference, aside from the Eco, between the Maxtow package with HD Payload vs. Tow Package (Not Maxtow) with HD Payload. For example, back in 2010 the Maxtow came with extra capacity radiator and transmission cooler and 3.73 rearend and extra leaf spring (for increased payload) over the tow package which made it worth paying the $500 extra for me. Dealer just wanted to know within 15 minutes, after keeping me waiting an hour, what my number for purchase that day of an Eco Lariat, was and we would worry about insignificant things like motor, tow capacity and payload later. I really like the service at this dealership which is near where I live, but to be expected to fork over $45 to $50,000 to a salesman who has absolutely no knowledge about the product and can't even be bothered to read the F-150 brochure means I will have try some other dealerships further afield.

 

Look up the order guide, some of that info is there. The complete details might require some digging which is why the salesman didn't do it. He didn't what to take that much time up when you might just have bought it anyway.

 

Do all the 2015 F-150s use C-clips? If so, that would be a reason some folks decide to go with a full float F-250, instead of HD payload or max tow on the F-150.

 

I do not know if it's still the same, but the HD Payload package used to include a 10.25" semi-floating rear with 7 lug wheels.

Note that the package is on "late availability" anyway - you may want to wait for a 2016.

 

I know i had to purchase the 3.5 to get the platinum above the 10,000 lb tow rating. As i recall it was like 10900 and max gears 355. very surprisingly its around 1500 more than the 5.0 with the 373.

 

According to my Owners manual for my 2015 , depending upon configurations :

My 2015 F 150 Supercrew 4x4 with 157" wheelbase, with 5.0 Litre and a 3:31 rear axle , allots a GCWR (Gross combined weight rating) of both trailer and vehicle weight of 14, 300 lbs. For arguments sake the truck weighs under 5000 lbs, so allow 5000 lbs to be safe. That means I can tow up to 9,300 lbs.

If same engine, different axles for my configuration, as follows:

5.0 litre , 3.55 axle, GCWR is 14,500 lbs
5.0 litre , 3.73 axle , GCWR is 16,200 lbs


Same truck with Ecoboost

My truck if configured with ecoboost 3.5 :

axle 3.31 , GCWR 16,100 lbs
axle 3.55 , GCWR 17,100 lbs.
axle 3.73 , GCWR 17,000 lbs

This is according to the manual.

The max towing capabilities of regular cab , super cab and super crew - all 4x4 , is 17,100 lbs depending on configurations.

Max towing for the 4x2 , regular cab, super cab and super crew, 17,100 lbs as well. The Ecoboost does edge out the 5.0 litre but not by much.

If you want to know anything else from the owners manual , let me know...

Best , ~Sty

 

GCWR is far from being everything, that's only one of several ratings you have to look at.

 

Semi-floating = c-clips.