Interesting numbers. I wonder how the pricing shakes out.

 

Not that I care about hp or torque numbers, but am I correct in recalling that the 2009 5.4L V8 got 320hp?

And the 2015 2.7L gets 325hp? And then add in (or subtract, really) about 700lbs of weight on top of that?

I'd say that's a win. Imagine how much quicker it'll get out of it's own way when merging and such when you actually need the power. I've been spoiled the past 3.5 years with my Fusion hybrid. I figured a hybrid would be a dog in terms of acceleration, but it's been just the opposite. Would be nice to not feel underpowered if I go back to a 150.

What I'd really be interested in, is the MPG for the 2.7L and whether it's an option on the Plat. And whether the big moonroof thing is an option on the Plat, or if it'll be like in '09 when I ordered my Plat and the moonroof was a package deal with the NAV so I was stuck with it whether I wanted it or not.

My big Q's:
1)2.7L mpg?
2)2.7L option in Plat?
3)moonroof optional in Plat?
4)Plat pricing w/all options sans moonroof?

As an aside, what's the point of comparing all the diff gas engines with that ram diesel engine? I know you can't find it at a lot of the fuel stations around me, it's only available here 'n there which would be a real PITA if you ask me. And secondly, isn't it typically more expensive than 87 grade gas? And do they charge a lot more for that engine choice? I just don't see where most typical light duty buyers would want to deal with all that hassle. Do they have to do that extra urea, or whatever it was called, thing too? Seems to me the diesel buyer would be a niche subset of the majority of light duty buyers who might haul a new lawn mower home or a couple pieces of drywall for a home project or tow a boat to the lake on the weekend. Maybe fleet buyers? I dunno, just seems the diesel thing would be in like a little subset all it's own.

 

Hah! In another thread people were saying I was full of BS when I said the 2.7 will make more power then the 3.5 and the 3.5 will make even less power then other 3.5s in the cars.

Sorry just felt like gloating in the face of 3 people

 

Maybe they thought you were talking about the EB 3.5? I think it was well known the 2.7 would make more than the N/A 3.5, but less than the EB 3.5.

 

Yeah I don't think anyone thought the 3.5 NA was going to beat the 2.7TT. Anyway, payload capacity is the number I really care about, as most guessed correct on power.
They claim something like 2700 lbs for the 3.5tt and 2100 lbs for the 2.7tt. This seems great, but remember the curent gen went up to 2000 lbs+ even w/o the HD package when properly equiped. The payload capacities given are just marketing confusion. I am betting GVWR will actually drop across the board. Max tow will only be around 7350 lbs and most others will be around 6850. 7350 GVWR should still get you 2700 lbs payload in a single cab 2wd.

 

No I said that I thought the 3.5 NA would be ~260 hp (which is wrong) and was told it would never make less then the 290 it made in the cars and that ford would not detune it as they said no engines go down in power the next year. I also said the 2.7 would make more power then it and be a more premium motor then the 3.5 and again was told I was talking out my ***.

Anyway enough of that. Im very curious what MPG the 2.7 got in that test and what the dodge diesel did. The dodge is short on HP but I bet it gets a lot better mileage towing.

 

I like the 2.7 numbers however I don't like the base engine numbers as the base engine is getting weaker in my opinion. Going down in HP and torque from the base engine of the 2011 to 2014 trucks it should be the same as or a little more not lower.

 

because going to a 3.5 N/A they can tune a little weaker. Who would buy the baby 2.7 V6EB if its rated less than the N/A 3.7?