2020 F-150 News
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11-12-2016, 01:00 PM
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2020 F-150 News
Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
New 4.8 V8 rumor, bye bye 5.0 ???
Anyone else hear anything ?
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Ford Motor Company and Canadian labor union Unifor just ratified a new 4-year contract over the weekend, securing a total of CA$713 million in investments to be split primarily between Canada’s Windsor and Essex Engine Plants, with some CA$100 million reserved for the Oakville Assembly Plant.
So what is Ford getting for its money? According to Reuters, it’s expected that the Essex Engine Plant, which currently produces the 5.0-liter Coyote V8, will be updated to produce a new 4.8-liter V8 engine for use in the Ford F-150. This is partly corroborated by a statement made by Unifor President Jerry Dias early in the month. He said: “This new engine will be the highest technology, will be the most fuel efficient, will have incredible torque, horsepower and will be put into Ford’s No. 1 selling vehicles throughout the North American chain.”
The 5.0-liter Coyote V8, currently found in both the Ford F-150 and Mustang GT, is the latest evolution of the automaker’s Modular engine family. It’s the first Ford V8 to feature Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing (Ti-VCT), which allows the timing of the intake and exhaust valves to be changed independent of one another. While a breakthrough in terms of delivering decent power efficiently, there are gains to be made possibly through the use of direct injection and a higher compression ratio.
In addition to the Ford F-150’s alleged forthcoming 4.8-liter, Reuters reports that some of Ford’s investment will go toward a new, fuel-efficient large engine for the Super Duty. It is also expected that Ford’s Windsor Engine Plant will continue to produce the 6.8-liter V10 throughout the duration of Unifor’s new contract.
http://www.f150forum.com/f118/new-4-...-5-0-a-363413/
Anyone else hear anything ?
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Ford Motor Company and Canadian labor union Unifor just ratified a new 4-year contract over the weekend, securing a total of CA$713 million in investments to be split primarily between Canada’s Windsor and Essex Engine Plants, with some CA$100 million reserved for the Oakville Assembly Plant.
So what is Ford getting for its money? According to Reuters, it’s expected that the Essex Engine Plant, which currently produces the 5.0-liter Coyote V8, will be updated to produce a new 4.8-liter V8 engine for use in the Ford F-150. This is partly corroborated by a statement made by Unifor President Jerry Dias early in the month. He said: “This new engine will be the highest technology, will be the most fuel efficient, will have incredible torque, horsepower and will be put into Ford’s No. 1 selling vehicles throughout the North American chain.”
The 5.0-liter Coyote V8, currently found in both the Ford F-150 and Mustang GT, is the latest evolution of the automaker’s Modular engine family. It’s the first Ford V8 to feature Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing (Ti-VCT), which allows the timing of the intake and exhaust valves to be changed independent of one another. While a breakthrough in terms of delivering decent power efficiently, there are gains to be made possibly through the use of direct injection and a higher compression ratio.
In addition to the Ford F-150’s alleged forthcoming 4.8-liter, Reuters reports that some of Ford’s investment will go toward a new, fuel-efficient large engine for the Super Duty. It is also expected that Ford’s Windsor Engine Plant will continue to produce the 6.8-liter V10 throughout the duration of Unifor’s new contract.
http://www.f150forum.com/f118/new-4-...-5-0-a-363413/
Unifor secures $1.2B in Detroit 3 investments in Canada after Ford contract ratified:
Ford Canada labor deal investment mainly for engines-sources:
A portion of the C$600 million will be used to update existing 5.0-liter V8 engine production at the Essex Engine plant, according to the two sources, who declined to be identified because the plan is not yet public. The updated engine is expected to be a 4.8-liter V8 for the F-150 pickup truck.
The remainder of the C$600 million will go toward production of a new fuel-efficient large engine, not yet named by Ford, for such "super-duty trucks" as the F-250, one of the sources said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/canad...-idUSL1N1D41MC
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Ford's Canadian union workers to vote on new contract:
"This engine will supply next generation, high volume products planned for 2020 model year production,” the packet reads.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2016...n-new-contract
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Futuristic hybrid-electric pickup is a real Workhorse:
Ford has promised to offer a hybrid version of the top-selling F-150 by 2020, and prototypes have already been spotted being tested on public roads.
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2016/11/...workhorse.html
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11-12-2016, 02:54 PM
Cue the beta tester comments in 3, 2, 1... This 2020 sounds like garbage. The 4.8 will melt the tranny. Good luck to all you beta testers!
What does Crazy own? A 2015. The beta tester talk is all smack.
All this bullsh1t I have heard lately about the 2015 has turned me off to it. I just decided this week to buy a 2014 at some point.
You can keep your aluminum, weak frame, 10 speed transmission "car with a bed"...
Some of the stuff said in this thread is truly laughable and it's obvious that most of you drive to work and back in your 50 grand FX4's and "off-road" to you is a puddle in the walmart parking lot.
You all can be the beta testers for these weak *** trucks. I was holding off replacing my 2005 to get a 2015, but screw it, I want a truck, not some POS pepsi can. I can already see people stealing 2015's just to recycle them and make a quick buck.
You can keep your aluminum, weak frame, 10 speed transmission "car with a bed"...
Some of the stuff said in this thread is truly laughable and it's obvious that most of you drive to work and back in your 50 grand FX4's and "off-road" to you is a puddle in the walmart parking lot.
You all can be the beta testers for these weak *** trucks. I was holding off replacing my 2005 to get a 2015, but screw it, I want a truck, not some POS pepsi can. I can already see people stealing 2015's just to recycle them and make a quick buck.
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11-13-2016, 07:55 AM
By 2020 the average price of an F-150 will cost as much as a small house.
"All this bullsh1t I have heard lately about the 2015 has turned me off to it. I just decided this week to buy a 2014 at some point.
You can keep your aluminum, weak frame, 10 speed transmission "car with a bed"...
Some of the stuff said in this thread is truly laughable and it's obvious that most of you drive to work and back in your 50 grand FX4's and "off-road" to you is a puddle in the walmart parking lot.
You all can be the beta testers for these weak *** trucks. I was holding off replacing my 2005 to get a 2015, but screw it, I want a truck, not some POS pepsi can. I can already see people stealing 2015's just to recycle them and make a quick buck."
Crazynip posting this crap is just proof that social media can control the weak minded people.
99.9% of pickup truck owners never get on a pickup truck forum so to base a statement like that due to what a minuscule number of people posted is stupid.
"All this bullsh1t I have heard lately about the 2015 has turned me off to it. I just decided this week to buy a 2014 at some point.
You can keep your aluminum, weak frame, 10 speed transmission "car with a bed"...
Some of the stuff said in this thread is truly laughable and it's obvious that most of you drive to work and back in your 50 grand FX4's and "off-road" to you is a puddle in the walmart parking lot.
You all can be the beta testers for these weak *** trucks. I was holding off replacing my 2005 to get a 2015, but screw it, I want a truck, not some POS pepsi can. I can already see people stealing 2015's just to recycle them and make a quick buck."
Crazynip posting this crap is just proof that social media can control the weak minded people.
99.9% of pickup truck owners never get on a pickup truck forum so to base a statement like that due to what a minuscule number of people posted is stupid.
Last edited by Paul888; 11-13-2016 at 09:30 AM.
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11-13-2016, 10:49 AM
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As the owned of an 01 I can tell you that without a doubt these current trucks are superior in every way to mine, especially in the areas of drive train and frame. During a hail storm my aluminum hood and steel body panels took equal damage with only the fiberglass bed remaining unscathed. After a thorough review, and depending on what happens with the new Toyota, I will be buying the 150 4x4. I'm pretty much down to figuring out how to mount a quality height adjustable air suspension.
Anyone remember cracked doors, leaking brake pressure switches, roof corrosion, or spark plug holes?
Anyone remember cracked doors, leaking brake pressure switches, roof corrosion, or spark plug holes?
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11-13-2016, 11:21 AM
As the owned of an 01 I can tell you that without a doubt these current trucks are superior in every way to mine, especially in the areas of drive train and frame. During a hail storm my aluminum hood and steel body panels took equal damage with only the fiberglass bed remaining unscathed. After a thorough review, and depending on what happens with the new Toyota, I will be buying the 150 4x4. I'm pretty much down to figuring out how to mount a quality height adjustable air suspension.
Anyone remember cracked doors, leaking brake pressure switches, roof corrosion, or spark plug holes?
Anyone remember cracked doors, leaking brake pressure switches, roof corrosion, or spark plug holes?
I had a 98 supercab with the 5.4 and I remember posters on forums citing the small door cracks and 5.4s spitting out spark plugs. I remember the door cracks only happened on trucks with power windows and the first generation 5.4s having plug thread problems in the heads.
Never heard of the roof corrosion and leaking pressure switches.
That was the 97-2003 F-150 generation......namely the 97-98 model years.
If any moron ever dropped a bunch of concrete blocks into the bed of my truck, from 6 ft up, would owe me a new bed whether it was steel or aluminum.
Last edited by Paul888; 11-13-2016 at 11:27 AM.
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11-13-2016, 11:36 AM
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11-13-2016, 12:05 PM
Originally Posted by crazynip
All this bullsh1t I have heard lately about the 2015 has turned me off to it. I just decided this week to buy a 2014...
You can keep your aluminum...
You all can be the beta testers for these weak *** trucks.
I was holding off replacing my 2005 to get a 2015, but screw it, I want a truck, not some POS pepsi can.
I can already see people stealing 2015's just to recycle them and make a quick buck.
All this bullsh1t I have heard lately about the 2015 has turned me off to it. I just decided this week to buy a 2014...
You can keep your aluminum...
You all can be the beta testers for these weak *** trucks.
I was holding off replacing my 2005 to get a 2015, but screw it, I want a truck, not some POS pepsi can.
I can already see people stealing 2015's just to recycle them and make a quick buck.
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11-13-2016, 12:45 PM
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11-13-2016, 04:33 PM
Gee - wasn't 2011 the first year for the 5.0 Coyote? Yep! Same year they introduced it in the Mustang.
Hmm - the 3.5 Ecoboost was used in cars (SHO, MKS, MKT, Flex) in 2010 before they put it in the F-150.......
You say - wasn't the 5.0 based on the modular 4.6/5.4 platform introduced in 1991? Yep! The 3.5 Ecoboost was based on the Duratec introduced in 1993.
So - if you think that buying an Ecoboost is being a beta teaser, so would a 5.0........
Just saying.
Hmm - the 3.5 Ecoboost was used in cars (SHO, MKS, MKT, Flex) in 2010 before they put it in the F-150.......
You say - wasn't the 5.0 based on the modular 4.6/5.4 platform introduced in 1991? Yep! The 3.5 Ecoboost was based on the Duratec introduced in 1993.
So - if you think that buying an Ecoboost is being a beta teaser, so would a 5.0........
Just saying.
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11-14-2016, 10:32 AM
Gee - wasn't 2011 the first year for the 5.0 Coyote? Yep! Same year they introduced it in the Mustang.
Hmm - the 3.5 Ecoboost was used in cars (SHO, MKS, MKT, Flex) in 2010 before they put it in the F-150.......
You say - wasn't the 5.0 based on the modular 4.6/5.4 platform introduced in 1991? Yep! The 3.5 Ecoboost was based on the Duratec introduced in 1993.
So - if you think that buying an Ecoboost is being a beta teaser, so would a 5.0........
Just saying.
Hmm - the 3.5 Ecoboost was used in cars (SHO, MKS, MKT, Flex) in 2010 before they put it in the F-150.......
You say - wasn't the 5.0 based on the modular 4.6/5.4 platform introduced in 1991? Yep! The 3.5 Ecoboost was based on the Duratec introduced in 1993.
So - if you think that buying an Ecoboost is being a beta teaser, so would a 5.0........
Just saying.
The only carry over between the 4.6 to the 5.0 is the bell housing bolt pattern and the deck height. Otherwise it was entirely new.
Neither engine design is bad but the Duratec has been used a whole lot longer.
#12
11-14-2016, 10:07 PM
And the motor mount bosses on the side of the block. Ford intentionally did that knowing the coyote would a popular swap. So basically anything that has a 4.6 the coyote will drop right in place.