I stopped by the dealer today to buy a part and while I was there I asked a salesman if they had a SWB F150 with 4x4 and 5.0. He found one and I drove it. Very nice. So quiet. During the drive I stepped on the gas a bit to see how peppy it was and then the salesman punched the button on the end of the column gearshift to switch it to sport mode and invited me to step on it again. It is plenty powerful! Lately I've been musing selling my 05 Hemi Magnum and my truck and getting a new truck. I'm not sure if I would prefer a Hemi RAM 4x4 or the 5.0 F150 4x4. Either one seems very very nice.

 

Saw on another forum where someone with a 2015 5.0 RCSB ran just over 14 in the quarter mile. I love the 5.0 in my truck.

 

Several YouTube videos show the 2.7 V6 twin turbo beating every current truck out there on the drag strip with the exception of the Ford 3.5 turbo. It's funny to watch the 2.7 EB turning a faster time than a Hemi with twice the displacement!

If you're towing all the time, the 5.0 probably makes more sense, but if your truck is your daily driver and you only tow a few times a month, I'd suggest taking a serious look at one of the EB engines. I get over 21 MPG (closer to 22) consistently around town with my little 2.7 (unless I'm screwing around and taking on-ramps at 100 MPH). Mileage goes way down when you're constantly working the turbos. I have gotten as much as 26.5 MPG with it on the highway.

 

Yeah but I'm an old fart who loves his V8s!

 

2015+ 5.0 gets lighter aluminum body, as well as a bump in horsepower

The single cab 2wd 5.0L has curb weight right about 4200lbs Not bad when you're packing 385 HP / 387 TQ

 

And these two beauties are running around on FB this week

2016 2wd Sport 5.0 sporting a 2/3 drop


2015/16 5.0 S/C with a 3/5 Drop

 

Sadly... I'm an old fart too.

There's nothing I like more than a '69 Chevy II, or a '71 Chevelle SS with a 350 V8. No, I'm NOT a Chevy guy, but back then, they were making them right!

The thing is; times are changing. A vintage late '60's early '70's 350 CID V8 turned out somewhere in the range of 275 HP. In comparison, the lowly 2.7 Ecoboost (that's 164 CID, almost half the size of the small block Chevy) turns out 325 HP. Sure, the F150 is a heavier vehicle, but the point is; technology has pushed us to a place where V8's are no longer the power plants they used to be.

Not trying to change your mind... but at least test drive the 2.7, and see what I'm talking about.

 

Yeah, my first car was a 56 chevy convertible with the 265cu in V8, 3 speed manual. I traded it for a 59 Impala coupe with a 283 with rated 230hp, 3 speed with OD and a stock 4.11 rear. I traded that for a new 65 Chevelle, 300hp 4 speed posi. Later I owned a 69 SS 396 chevelle with a 4 speed and posi. I loved those old Chevys!!

As I understand it, the 2.7L has start/stop. I'll never buy one of those.

 

That is what the truck I drove looked like except it was a 4x4 and sat a little higher.

 

Roadie, I hear ya on the 'old fart' deal.. I'm one too.

Truely missed the good 'ol V8 rumble I had in all my past V8 vehicles going back to when I was 16 years old..

Carbs, points, dwell, A/F screws, spark plug changes every 12k miles.... Been there done that.. Loved it at the time.

I did miss my old 97 5.4 rumble from the exhaust. Was going to get a new muffler setup on the new EB too..

But, got to driving it and when I first towed with it, that's all I needed to convince me I didn't need a V8 anymore..

I'm actually digging how quiet it is, yet you step on the go pedal just a tad, and it just takes off. Towing, it gives a nice "growl" going up the grades. (4th gear, 2500 rpms, 60 mph with still WAY more pedal to go..)

Anyway, I still love the sound of a good 'ol V8.. I'd have nothing but Mid 60 to mid 70 muscle cars in my collection if I had one!! All makes and models too.. I love Ford, but that Mopar and Chevy side does strike a cord with me on those old cars too..

I'm really torn on the new aluminum F150's... They are lighter, but they reduced all the GVW ratings on them at the same time.. Sure, they have great "tow ratings", but they are lighter, so towing heavy, the trailer does not know that... Only that it can whip that tail a bit easier, because of the less 'beef' on the tow vehicle...

Anyway, sign of the times I guess.. This is my Dad's 71 F250.. He's refreshed it not long ago and it's in the will! (390, C6, Custom Camper Special, power brakes and that's it!)

Mitch

 

Yes, start/stop. No, I don't like it either, but get used to it. Soon, you'll have no choice no matter what you're buying. My son's new BMW had it too, but he can disable it through a menu setting. I'm sure that once the tree-huggers get through with us, that feature will be gone as well.

What I have discovered on mine, however, is the start/stop knows how hard you're stomping on the brake pedal. Keep a light touch, and it won't ever shut down on you. There's always the button on the dash, if you want to go that route as well. I prefer controlling it with my brake pedal pressure though. It's pretty easy to get used to doing it that way. Another 'option' I have seen mentioned is to get one of those illuminated trailer hitch logo things (or a light-up Rudolph the red nosed reindeer, if you're into that) and that will also defeat the start/stop.

Sad that the Kommifornia lifestyle is intruding into every aspect of our lives these days. Everything you buy these days with a motor is leaned out so bad, just to meet Kali EPA standards. They don't care if you burn the engine down, or if it shortens the life of the engine... as long as it's pushing unicorn pee and rainbows out the tailpipe. Heck, it doesn't even have to have a motor... have you tried getting good old Thompson's Water Seal these days? Can't find the original formula anywhere, and if you want some entertainment, read the reviews on the 'new' formula stuff! Might as well have just shuttered the factory... it would have been more humane.

 

I saw a woman in a parking lot recently who was driving a pristine 1965 Plymouth Barracuda. She said she bought it new. It has lots of miles on it but she recently had it refurbished. So, there is always the option of keeping what you have or buying used. Like I said I will never buy a vehicle with the start/stop feature.

 

Roadie - my point was you may HAVE to buy a vehicle with start/stop, if you want to buy a NEW vehicle in the very near future. You may not have a choice... unless Trump can get rid of the bane of America (the EPA) once and for all - I fear it will be forced on us like Obamacare was forced on us. No vote, no input, no choice.

 

I know exactly your point. But, you never have to buy a new vehicle, especially me at 72 years of age. It's a choice we make. I could drive what I have the rest of my life, a 2005 Dodge Magnum Hemi with 105k miles on it and my truck that has 142k miles on it. I live in the south and vehicle don't rust much around here. That 6,000 mile trip I took recently out west was about double what I normally put on my truck in a year since I retired. My wife who is 17 years younger has an Infiniti EX37 with about 12k miles on it. If I buy anything else new any time soon, it will be a choice not a have to. As an oh by the way, that small Infiniti crossover with its 325hp V6 and quick shifting 7 speed auto is faster than my Hemi Magnum.

 

I get it. In fact, my recent 2015 F150 purchase was our first new vehicle in over 30 years. I typically DO NOT buy new for various reasons! Frankly, in most cases it makes NO sense to buy new.

However, the problem (here in Utah, at least) is resale values on trucks are VERY high... so high that it just didn't make sense to buy used. What I paid for my new (last year's model) truck was in line with what used 1-2 year old (12k-24k miles) trucks were going for. Used F150's sell in the $30k and UP range locally (many in the 40's). So I hear you. When I CAN buy a 2-3 year old vehicle, I certainly do so. In this case (for me) buying new made more sense.

Would you be willing to share why you dislike start/stop so much? I'm not looking to argue - I'm curious if there's something I missed about the whole process. I know it takes a lot longer to change your oil... what else?