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Diesel or not?

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Old 01-15-2008, 09:49 PM
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Diesel or not?

So is there going to be a diesel in the 2009 F-150s or not? I didnt see any mention of it however i could have missed it.

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Old 01-15-2008, 09:52 PM
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Nope. 2010 at the earliest (rumour has it)
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:54 PM
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What a crock of manure. Guess ill be looking for a used 7.3
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:57 PM
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its not a rumor. its planned for 2010. i seen it on inford today(used for info at work) planned to have a diesel and eco-boost by 2010. the 6.2 IS a rumor. no official info about it anywhere UNLESS it is going to be the eco-boost engine, which is doubtfull. the largest eco boost i have heard of so far is a 3.5 V6...
 
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Originally Posted by Adam06FX4
its not a rumor. its planned for 2010. i seen it on inford today(used for info at work) planned to have a diesel and eco-boost by 2010. the 6.2 IS a rumor. no official info about it anywhere UNLESS it is going to be the eco-boost engine, which is doubtfull. the largest eco boost i have heard of so far is a 3.5 V6...
That's my understanding as well, in regard to the eco-boost engines. Really, "small" is the whole point with those things. Supposedly the 3.5 can make more power and torque throughout the power band than the current 5.4, and get something like 30% better fuel economy than the 4.6. The other potentially good thing about the ecoboost, is that it is usually very easy to add a lot more power to a boosted engine just by adding more boost. That can be especially simple to do with a turbo!

That said, I'm not going to get too excited about a v6 in an F-150 or a Mustang for that matter, regardless of what it can do.
 
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:37 PM
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yup i can just imagine how much power a tuner will add on an eco-boost . i dont care if its a v6. ill take power, fuel economy, light weight... then go blow the doors off of a hemi
 
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Originally Posted by Adam06FX4
yup i can just imagine how much power a tuner will add on an eco-boost . i dont care if its a v6. ill take power, fuel economy, light weight... then go blow the doors off of a hemi

There is potentially a lot to like. Especially with the direct injection, God only knows what the boost limit is going to be on that thing. 20, 30psi???

I've heard people talk about the possibility of a twin turbo 4.6 or 5.4, but I believe that would be out of the question. An engine such as that would be a complete beast, and probably not very "Eco."
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:42 AM
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2010? Damn ford! Well off to go find a used Ford diesel or a Chevy or Dodge.
 
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FireboltJoel03
So is there going to be a diesel in the 2009 F-150s or not? I didnt see any mention of it however i could have missed it.

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Diesel and EcoBoost gas turbo direct injection engines are planned for F-150 in 2010.

Source: http://ford.digitalsnippets.com/2008...r-performance/
 
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yup i can just imagine how much power a tuner will add on an eco-boost . i dont care if its a v6. ill take power, fuel economy, light weight... then go blow the doors off of a hemi
If you not familiar with the new generation of diesels, then you might not know that there is a new particle catalytic converter installed. The cheap way to amp up a diesel is to dump some more fuel and advance the fuel timing. Without an increase in airflow, this causes smoke. The smoke is going to make the computer cause the engine to go into regen mode. Regen mode dumps raw fuel into your exhaust to burn off that smokey soot trapped in the new catalytic converter.

Your mileage is going to go into the toilet and for a 1/2 ton, it might even go into a temp limp mode. Oh and your warranty is going to be void on any powertrain issues immediately.

As far as the general topic, the key is going to be how much cost is going to be involved? I paid 30k for my XLT. How many people are going to want to pay 35k for a 1/2 ton? With a 1/2 ton diesel, the lines between 1/2 and 3/4 ton will be even more blurred. I'd love to have the torque of my dearly departed 7.3PSD in this truck. Thing would be as perfect as possible.
 
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Originally Posted by FireboltJoel03
So is there going to be a diesel in the 2009 F-150s or not? I didnt see any mention of it however i could have missed it.

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Like said above it'll come out in the 2010 F-150. It was produced in a joint agreement between Ford and PSA Peugeot Citroen. As far as the specs go, it will be a Lion 4.4L V8 (296 ci) with twin VGT turbos. It will be a DOHC 32-valve with a high-pressure common-rail with piezo injectors and an air-to-air intercooler. Should be rated around 350 hp and 500 lb-ft of torque.

2 other Lion diesel versions, the 2.7L V6 and 3.6L V8 already debuted in the European Jaguar S-type and in the Land Rover and Range Rover. The V6 was getting an impressive 49 mpg on the highway, so we'll see what happens in the V8's. Can't wait until she comes out next year!
 
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:18 AM
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Supposedly 2010 is the model year. So the diesel should be here in 2009. I'm hoping to hear more information at the next auto show.
 
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Originally Posted by hllon4whls
If you not familiar with the new generation of diesels, then you might not know that there is a new particle catalytic converter installed. The cheap way to amp up a diesel is to dump some more fuel and advance the fuel timing. Without an increase in airflow, this causes smoke. The smoke is going to make the computer cause the engine to go into regen mode. Regen mode dumps raw fuel into your exhaust to burn off that smokey soot trapped in the new catalytic converter.

Your mileage is going to go into the toilet and for a 1/2 ton, it might even go into a temp limp mode. Oh and your warranty is going to be void on any powertrain issues immediately.

As far as the general topic, the key is going to be how much cost is going to be involved? I paid 30k for my XLT. How many people are going to want to pay 35k for a 1/2 ton? With a 1/2 ton diesel, the lines between 1/2 and 3/4 ton will be even more blurred. I'd love to have the torque of my dearly departed 7.3PSD in this truck. Thing would be as perfect as possible.
^^^the eco-boost i am speaking of is not a diesel. its a direct injection turbo gasser
 
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Armyboy61
Like said above it'll come out in the 2010 F-150. It was produced in a joint agreement between Ford and PSA Peugeot Citroen. As far as the specs go, it will be a Lion 4.4L V8 (296 ci) with twin VGT turbos. It will be a DOHC 32-valve with a high-pressure common-rail with piezo injectors and an air-to-air intercooler. Should be rated around 350 hp and 500 lb-ft of torque.

2 other Lion diesel versions, the 2.7L V6 and 3.6L V8 already debuted in the European Jaguar S-type and in the Land Rover and Range Rover. The V6 was getting an impressive 49 mpg on the highway, so we'll see what happens in the V8's. Can't wait until she comes out next year!
4.4L = 268.4 ci
 
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by OffRoad99
4.4L = 268.4 ci
Yes thank you, that's right. I just did the math and realized 296 is wrong. Should have done it in the first place, but I got the information of out the diesel power magazine, which said 296, and figured they wouldn't be wrong....guess they were though
 

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