2006 F150 5.4 periodic misfire
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2006 F150 5.4 periodic misfire
Hi all,
I've scoured the threads for a good portion of the evening looking in to this issue.
This started awhile ago, a misfire on #7 which was finally caught by my mechanics scanner after the engine light locked in. He replaced the coil (easy job I know, but didn't have time when this happened). The issue continued. So once I was freed up I continued with the dreaded spark plug replacement. My truck only had 68k and even with following advice from various forums and YouTube videos I still broke 3. Not a big deal with the lisle tool.
Anyway, job done, take it out and I get the light flashing (by this time I purchased my own scanner) and I could see that it misfired on #7 again. After driving it today, it idles very smooth and most of the time runs good. However, if I load the engine around that special speed of 40-55 mph it likes to misfire. My scanner can count the number of misfires and I got a total of 198 in a 25 mile drive. The number of misfires reduced to about as I drove it more during the day. However, I haven't figured out how to display, if possible, which cylinder is misfiring since it doesn't throw a code when it misfires.
Also while driving, I was monitoring fuel rail pressure and it always around 39 psi.
I picked up an injector. Should I just go ahead and replace it?
Is there a way to diagnose the injectors and could using a multimeter? I've thought of spark testers and noid light (for testing pulse to injector) but id rather not go there yet.
With all the threads, is a there a more reasonable solution that has been arrived at other than a mass replacement of expensive parts?
Thanks for any and all help and suggestions.
I've scoured the threads for a good portion of the evening looking in to this issue.
This started awhile ago, a misfire on #7 which was finally caught by my mechanics scanner after the engine light locked in. He replaced the coil (easy job I know, but didn't have time when this happened). The issue continued. So once I was freed up I continued with the dreaded spark plug replacement. My truck only had 68k and even with following advice from various forums and YouTube videos I still broke 3. Not a big deal with the lisle tool.
Anyway, job done, take it out and I get the light flashing (by this time I purchased my own scanner) and I could see that it misfired on #7 again. After driving it today, it idles very smooth and most of the time runs good. However, if I load the engine around that special speed of 40-55 mph it likes to misfire. My scanner can count the number of misfires and I got a total of 198 in a 25 mile drive. The number of misfires reduced to about as I drove it more during the day. However, I haven't figured out how to display, if possible, which cylinder is misfiring since it doesn't throw a code when it misfires.
Also while driving, I was monitoring fuel rail pressure and it always around 39 psi.
I picked up an injector. Should I just go ahead and replace it?
Is there a way to diagnose the injectors and could using a multimeter? I've thought of spark testers and noid light (for testing pulse to injector) but id rather not go there yet.
With all the threads, is a there a more reasonable solution that has been arrived at other than a mass replacement of expensive parts?
Thanks for any and all help and suggestions.
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Just went for a drive after replacing my fuel filter. No change for the better. Kicked it down from a rolling start and it misfired quite a bit to the point I could get a code while the CEL was flashing. Same P0307 number 7 misfire. I think I'll first try swapping coils to 5 or 6 and see if it moves. It's hard to believe such a coincidence since #7 is the only brand new coil. If that doesn't work I'll go for the injector on that cylinder and probably clean the others while I have the whole fuel rail off. Blah.
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Dear diary
For the record,
I removed my injectors this evening. I hooked up a quick test to see if any were leaking. Also I used the same test rig to clean them out. It's just a 12v battery, some leads and a switch or button so you can cycle the injector while pressurizing with a syringe of carb cleaner. Look it up. YouTube is pretty great.
I found my #7 injector to spray regardless of switch position. This is bad but good. I finally found something.
Picking up an o-ring kit tomorrow to reinstall the 7 old and 1 new properly. Hopefully then I can write a final entry to my diary for this chapter in my life.
Mmm beer.
I removed my injectors this evening. I hooked up a quick test to see if any were leaking. Also I used the same test rig to clean them out. It's just a 12v battery, some leads and a switch or button so you can cycle the injector while pressurizing with a syringe of carb cleaner. Look it up. YouTube is pretty great.
I found my #7 injector to spray regardless of switch position. This is bad but good. I finally found something.
Picking up an o-ring kit tomorrow to reinstall the 7 old and 1 new properly. Hopefully then I can write a final entry to my diary for this chapter in my life.
Mmm beer.
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It's a 2006. I've seen that customer satisfaction program mentioned in the forums. My truck was manufactured 9/05 but the document states 2005 model year trucks.
I have a new injector but now I'm stumped by the o rings on the injectors. Rail side are blue, port side are green. I removed them from the broken injector and they are definitely different in size. However, this could be from the different conditions they have been exposed to. But I doubt that. The rail side o rings are thicker in all dimensions. Ford part number cm-4717 is a kit of 10 (why 10? In case you jack 2 up when installing?) o rings but who knows if that is 5 for top and 5 for bottom. The parts fiche actually calls out the same part number for the top and bottom o rings.
Any idea?
I have a new injector but now I'm stumped by the o rings on the injectors. Rail side are blue, port side are green. I removed them from the broken injector and they are definitely different in size. However, this could be from the different conditions they have been exposed to. But I doubt that. The rail side o rings are thicker in all dimensions. Ford part number cm-4717 is a kit of 10 (why 10? In case you jack 2 up when installing?) o rings but who knows if that is 5 for top and 5 for bottom. The parts fiche actually calls out the same part number for the top and bottom o rings.
Any idea?
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Thanks for the response.
That was the same conclusion I arrived at. I bought new ones for the top and replaced those. I cleaned up the bottom ones and lubed them. It's really odd that you can't buy replacement o-rings for the bottom. They still looked to be in good shape.
I'm happy to report that the injector was, in fact, the culprit. Although this whole thing was a huge PITA, I really did learn a lot. I bought a scan tool and that helped me tremendously with diagnosing. Fuel trims, O2 sensor data and the like. Hopefully it holds together for awhile.
What else can I expect to replace on this truck? I've done the spark plugs from hell, bad injector, and replacing the IWEs and solenoid for the 4x4.
That was the same conclusion I arrived at. I bought new ones for the top and replaced those. I cleaned up the bottom ones and lubed them. It's really odd that you can't buy replacement o-rings for the bottom. They still looked to be in good shape.
I'm happy to report that the injector was, in fact, the culprit. Although this whole thing was a huge PITA, I really did learn a lot. I bought a scan tool and that helped me tremendously with diagnosing. Fuel trims, O2 sensor data and the like. Hopefully it holds together for awhile.
What else can I expect to replace on this truck? I've done the spark plugs from hell, bad injector, and replacing the IWEs and solenoid for the 4x4.