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Old 06-10-2011, 07:09 PM
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Promising gas saving device?

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idk seems like it could work on returnless systems but not on return fuel systems, can't increase the pressure if you still have a pressure regulator, unless it just bypasses the fuel regulator or something
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I thought I saw them close a hood on a F150 on the Dallas video. Its interesting for sure. Might have to buy some stock in that company.

If you go their website they tested it on a 2005 F150 5.4
http://www.thevipercell.com/emired.html

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Interesting. Anyone scientifically inclined enough to delve into whether an increase in Reid Vapor Pressure is possible/can produce results like they claim?
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Yeah I read everything on their site. F150 showed 10% increase BUT it also decarbonized the valves. Sounds like the spark plug problem would be resolved. If I was going to keep my truck another 2 years it would more than pay for itself. The increase in horsepower would be nice too.

I also e mailed the guy, he said any decent home mechanic can do this in 10 minutes or less. Kinda like changing out the fuel filter. And they are a privately held company.
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Anyone scientifically inclined enough to delve into whether an increase in Reid Vapor Pressure is possible/can produce results like they claim?
The data furnished is so skewed it's hard to believe anybody is dumb enough to believe this crock. On the emissions report, there are no, zero, carbon monoxides produced at idle or at 2200rpms. The data for the dyno makes absolutely zero sense. But I did find it interesting that someone marked the sheet as the 5.4 having 179.9HP. The oil analysis is not for an F150 at all unless they found a way to put a 5.4 in a Crown Vic. That engine shows to have 40 weight oil in it. The entire data sheet looks like the old saying- If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle 'em with Bulls**t. Fuel pressure is not going to change atomization of the fuel. I saw nothing there to make believe this is nothing but the placebo effect at work. Remember the Dallas maintenance man claims that it produced 11-14% increase in fuel mileage. I can beat those numbers without lifting the hood. That's a very small increase- maybe 1-1.4 mpg in real world numbers. If the driver didn't idle as much, didn't drive it on the floor as much, can make that kind of difference and then some.
I can't tell you just how many of these fuel saving devices we have seen over the years. I'd bet a full 18 wheel dump truck full of worthless crap that never worked. The hydrogen generators were the most popular...like as if the hydrogen generated had near enough BTUs to power your truck anyway. I can assure you, if there was a technology out there that added to the manufacturers CAFE with current engine designs, they'd be all over it. But a one fits all, gas or diesel, is just crazy.
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Well it may be worth a phone call to the Dallas,Ga motor pool to see what the real world numbers are.
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This forum should put together a testing committee and have sponsors to raise money and then that person actually test it in real life. **** I would put money in for that kind of review.
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I live here in Paulding Co 2 miles from Dallas. Maybe I'll ask around and see whats up.
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Until they get better numbers/data.....snake oil it is......
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INCREASED VAPOR PRESSURE!!!! WOW!! Why didn't I think of this. I am glad it works on diesels too. Because I am sure it increases pressure why past what a diesel injector does does at 2K-15K PSI. That's a niffty tube.
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I think I saw a piece about this on the local news a while ago. IMO, it just restricts fuel flow allowing better MPG's but hurts performance. That's just my guess, havent done any research on it and don't really plan on it.
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This forum should put together a testing committee and have sponsors to raise money and then that person actually test it in real life. **** I would put money in for that kind of review.
Here's the place and at the end of the vid, the man you need to chat with. Depending on the number of samplings, data requested, determines the cost. I would expect a simple fuel mileage test with exhaust analysis for a single unit to cost something like $50,000. Ready with yer money?
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LabNerd said it right. I would like to believe it but that's kind of strange that one device fits diesel and gasoline. On top of this, if a higher pressure is build up,..what is building up higher pressure? IS it a mechanical spring? ...i don;t know guys but this looks kind of funny to me....

Adding the note of that after i read a few things... I simply don;t believe it. First he need to patent the device and then there would be no issue speaking of how the device works because it is protected by the owners right :d ... since he don;t even wanna talk about it makes me think something is wrong. lol... sorry guys.

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