$239 ROTUNDA TOOL NOT NEEDED!!!!!!!I spent $2.86 - Page 3

**Bluejay** · #31 03-10-2009, 01:41 PM

I did a quick search by entering the words "porcelain glue" and came up with a bunch of threads. Here is one of them, hope this helps.

http://www.f150online.com/forums/art...porcelain+glue

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random155 · #32 03-10-2009, 03:54 PM

What did you use to get the bolts at the top of your homemade tap to stay in place when you turn it in?

**Bluejay** · #33 03-10-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by random155

What did you use to get the bolts at the top of your homemade tap to stay in place when you turn it in?

If you are asking what I think you are, those are not bolts. It's one piece of allthread with nuts screwed down to different positions.

**Bluejay** · #34 03-10-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by random155

What did you use to get the bolts at the top of your homemade tap to stay in place when you turn it in?

Wait, are you speaking of the porcelain tool or the original shank tap/extractor?

Tylus · #35 03-10-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by random155

What did you use to get the bolts at the top of your homemade tap to stay in place when you turn it in?

you get 2 nuts, and then jam them together. this will prevent them from turning on the threaded rod while you try to crank on it

Cyclepath · #36 03-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Well, I ran up to Napa and grabbed the Lisle 65600 ford plug extractor. $93

It worked like a charm, I stuck a screwdriver in and snapped the porcelain. It broke flush with the top of the sleeve that is stuck down in the motor, then i used the tools as defined, first i used the tool to press the porcelain down to make room for the extractor to tighten in. The only issue i have is a small piece of porcelain broke off in three of the four i extracted. I am going to run up to the hardware store and get some small flexible tube to ductape to the shopvac and suck around on top of the piston. Then, just to make sure I am going to turn it over without any plugs in it hopping any fragments blow out the hole with the compression. hopefully it will be ok.

I was thinking about using the homemade unit seen here, but with broken plugs way in the back i just did not want to take a chance with problems, if it was out front only i would have make my own...

**Bluejay** · #37 03-10-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclepath

Well, I ran up to Napa and grabbed the Lisle 65600 ford plug extractor. $93

It worked like a charm, I stuck a screwdriver in and snapped the porcelain. It broke flush with the top of the sleeve that is stuck down in the motor, then i used the tools as defined, first i used the tool to press the porcelain down to make room for the extractor to tighten in. The only issue i have is a small piece of porcelain broke off in three of the four i extracted. I am going to run up to the hardware store and get some small flexible tube to ductape to the shopvac and suck around on top of the piston. Then, just to make sure I am going to turn it over without any plugs in it hopping any fragments blow out the hole with the compression. hopefully it will be ok.

I was thinking about using the homemade unit seen here, but with broken plugs way in the back i just did not want to take a chance with problems, if it was out front only i would have make my own...

Good luck!

Cyclepath · #38 03-11-2009, 09:30 PM

Truck runs purrfect....

greencrew · #39 03-11-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by risupercrewman

That has to be one of the most inovative things that I have ever seen on this site! Congrads!.........

I think this one is good enough to earn 'Technical Innovation Contributor' under your sign on name.

PhqChevys · #40 05-23-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyclepath

Well, I am in the middle of this mess right now and am getting more angry by the minute. I have gotten two out and broken four, 2 are still unknown.

I tested a fine thread 3/16 tap on the work bench and it will not work. Because the stainless sleeve is not the proper size for a 3/16 tap, you cannot get a fine thread tap to start, the course thread will only tap 2 threads because of the same reason. But, when the two threads are tapped and the all-thread is engaged it is pretty darn solid. This is why the rotunda kit uses a 9mm x 1.0 tap, but that all-thread would be a special order item.

Ok. so here is my question, I have had a failure not listed, the threaded sleeve has backed out leaving the entire porcelain in tact. What do i do now, do i put a screwdriver in there and crack it off? Also, on the normal failure when the porcelain fills the stainless sleeve, how do i get that out of there enough to run the tap in? Do i chisel it away with a screwdriver?

You should be able to reach in the spark plug well with some long needle nose plires and carefully pull the entire porcelain part out leaving just the sleave behind. Then use the 3/8 allthread trick.

kingofkings · #41 05-23-2009, 04:20 AM

Creative.

Robs4X4 · #42 06-08-2009, 11:58 AM

I completed my plug change with just over 46,000 miles on my 2004. I had one plug issue, which I resolved with my Craftsman extractors (#6), a 10mm socket for the extractor to slip into, an extension and some electrical tape to hold it all together. I lightly turned the extractor in with a ratchet and pulled the plug end out. Worked flawlessly and it was Cheap! Hope this will help someone.

Also I used a 5/8" spark plug socket to grab the plugs from the cavernous hole.

I have some pics in my photo gallery if needed...

Wade06XLT · #43 06-08-2009, 01:58 PM

I have to stop reading all these darn spark plug threads. Now I'm real scared to do mine. Think I'll just "let her ride" until it starts running like poop or 100k miles. Whichever comes first.

jimmyv13 · #44 06-09-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Robs4X4

I completed my plug change with just over 46,000 miles on my 2004. I had one plug issue, which I resolved with my Craftsman extractors (#6), a 10mm socket for the extractor to slip into, an extension and some electrical tape to hold it all together. I lightly turned the extractor in with a ratchet and pulled the plug end out. Worked flawlessly and it was Cheap! Hope this will help someone.

Also I used a 5/8" spark plug socket to grab the plugs from the cavernous hole.

I have some pics in my photo gallery if needed...

I have a set of these extractors and was wondering if they'd work for this, good find!!! I'll probably get after this sometime this summer....I feel more confident knowing there are a couple of ways I can fix the broken plug in my garage rather than taking it to the dealer. With my luck, I'll be the first truck with 8 broken plugs...